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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2006, 09:01:04 AM »
Oww... my ego. :-[
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2006, 09:04:01 AM »
I had finally began to forget about that incident.

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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2006, 02:27:27 PM »
-cough-

Free Marines are better CC units than Sunset Strikers.
they're possibly one of the best CC units. 
Right up there with Mourning Wolves, just lacking the second wound.

and they're all bat-shiot insane.

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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2006, 05:18:40 PM »
-cough-

Free Marines are better CC units than Sunset Strikers.
they're possibly one of the best CC units. 
Right up there with Mourning Wolves, just lacking the second wound.

and they're all bat-shiot insane.

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Joe this is one of the few times Im going to have to disagree with you. A CC troop that can move 12" per turn as opposed to 9"  1 point better armor plus an insane 16 to hit roll in CC when charging and when you hit you do a possible 16 Dam. As opposed to a 12(x2) to hit and a 10 Dam. Not to mention that when you try to hit a striker back on the odd time he doesnt kill you. You are at -2 in you own CC to attack them.

Im sure you have your reasons but to me the numbers speak for themselves. Id like to hear why you think the Marines are better?

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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #34 on: July 27, 2006, 07:05:47 PM »
Ambush, UBGL and Multiple ROF CC weapons.

The Striker only gets the insane bonus's once, if he has to engage his target for more than the primary attack the Multiple RoF of the Fremen's Brass Knuckles will vastly outweigh the slightly reduced damage and CC. 

Ambush, they can use their second reserved action to continue pummeling whatever they charged offa wait.  or they could just shoot, lots.

Havoc Grenades.


I've taken these guys on several Space-Hulk style boarding missions and every time they've either ended up kings of the gang-beating (thouroughly embarassing Mishima on several instances) or have held entire swaths of corridors just by sheer, Ambushing, intimdating presence.

You'll just never be able to convince me that an RC inferior, single ROF, non-clinically insane troop can top a mohawked madman.

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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #35 on: July 27, 2006, 07:27:34 PM »
Ok I guess well have to agree to disagree on this one  :D
Anyone else have opinions on this?
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #36 on: July 27, 2006, 08:17:03 PM »
I'll admit, a lot of it is personal preferance.  I've always loved the "when visiting a Capitol city: do not speak to the Free Marines" fluff.  couple that with my inability to fail to-hit rolls and my troops never fighting just one bad guy in CC and the Fremen are a logical choice for me.

(that and I have two squads painted up so yer darn tootin that they're the best units for CC)

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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2006, 08:31:12 PM »
I'll admit, a lot of it is personal preferance.  I've always loved the "when visiting a Capitol city: do not speak to the Free Marines" fluff.  couple that with my inability to fail to-hit rolls and my troops never fighting just one bad guy in CC and the Fremen are a logical choice for me.

(that and I have two squads painted up so yer darn tootin that they're the best units for CC)

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I have two squads of Strikers painted up lol I didnt realize exactly HOW bad azzed they were until , through bad tactics, I had 2 get surrounded by DL baddies They fought their way out without a loss.<granted I had some great rolls and Masher couldnt save during that if he needed a 20 or less ;D> But I feel the chance to kill once in CC is pretty high and then charge charge charge away!!!! It would be interesting to see them go toe to toe. I might just have to break out the free marines I have and use them against my son < He like the strikers as well>
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2006, 11:42:18 PM »
I wouldnt mind fielding a whole Ducal or Dragoon army with ablative armor
I believe going for ablative armor, at least for ducals, is not a wise choice. I've done some statistical analisys and it's much better to field an extra model or two instead of having that extra AR.

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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2006, 01:27:59 AM »
hi,

just a short notice, I belive that extra armor should always be taken!
(exept for brutal point saving..)

its only 1 point. if only one member of the quat 1 time successes because the armor, the cost is returned.
also, it may prevent a morale check then. getting 1 assoult rifle less is not such a big price.. imho..
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2006, 04:53:42 AM »
I have two squads of Strikers painted up lol I didnt realize exactly HOW bad azzed they were until , through bad tactics, I had 2 get surrounded by DL baddies They fought their way out without a loss.<granted I had some great rolls and Masher couldnt save during that if he needed a 20 or less ;D>

its true
all of it true
god forsaken me and my dice that game.

My poor last ritesmen I still weep over that one.
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2006, 05:05:14 AM »
RE: Sunset Strikers vs. Free Marines:

I think the most important bit to remember is that they are the close combat troopers for their respective factions, so it's not like you'll ever have to decide between the two of them.


Howerver, I'm going to have to try out my free marines, and see how they perform.
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2006, 05:31:54 AM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! ambushing COBRA agents with brass knuckles.
                  WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END!!!!
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Re: Bauhaus, efficiency and morale
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2006, 09:17:30 AM »
God damn you guys.  Now I want to see my capitol force in action I have quite a few of each Sunset Strikers and Freemarines, and none of either has ever seen the field.  You see, dispite having over 1000 pts each of Capitol Ground, and Capitol Navy, the only Capitol Infantry squad I have is one k-9 squad.

God I can't wait until my Prince August order comes in and I finally have capitol grunts.