Help with rare miniatures

[Bobban]

Hi everyone! Figured this would be a good place to get some help from fellow enthusiasts

I'm trying to figure out which Excelsior-made Warzone miniatures were actually released and which never made it into production. I've used archived versions of the Exclesior website as well as fanzines and old product lists. Here are three lists I've put together - miniatures I know were released, miniatures I am unsure of, and miniatures that were never released. I mostly need help with the list of miniatures I'm unsure of, but if you know of any errors in the other lists, please let me know as well. Maybe you know the product code of some of the products that I couldn't find? Any help would be greatly appreciated and pictures of some of the rare stuff would be awesome! I also have a fourth bonus lists of Target miniatures that I am also unsure of. Cheers!

List #1: Confirmed releases

EXE-XXXXX Kristmas Karnophage (sculpted by Target in 1994, released as a limited mini by Excelsior in XMAS 2005)

EXE-SD00001 SD- Valpurgius 2004?
EXE-SD00002 SD- Keeper of the Art 2004?
EXE-SD00003 SD- If you're so evil…(smoking pile) Mitch Hunter? 2004?

EXE-30174 Heavy Infantry  GL specialist 2003
EXE-30176 Free Marine Gunnery Sgt 2002

EXE-30245 Golden Lion HMG Specialist/Tankbuster 2003

EXE-30354 Ducal Militia RL specialist 2003
EXE-30361 Dragoon Sniper 2005

EXE-30431 Ronin Samurai Grenade Launcher Specialist 2002
EXE-30433 Nagano Shadow Walkers 2004
EXE-30721 (before EXE-30434) Mishima Doomtroopers (Izumi the Whirlwind & Kanada the Dragon) 2004

EXE-30524 Shock Trooper GL Specialist 2002
EXE-30526 Eradicator Deathdroid AV 2001
EXE-30527 Surveiler (CBM 20100: Cybernetically Enhanced Trooper) 2011

EXE-40215 Tekron Warmaster 2005
EXE-40260 Blight Commando Tainter 2004
EXE-40261 Blight Commando Sgt. 2004
EXE-40262 Blight Commandos (4) 2004
EXE-XXXXX Mezoghoul 2002

EXE-40509 Lutheran Euthenasi 2005


List #2: Uncertain status

EXE-30117 Desert Scorpion Demo Specialist (1)

EXE-30246 Headhunter blademaster

EXE-30353 Hussar GL specialist (Demolition specialist)

EXE-XXXXX Crimson Devil Leader with Back Mon (Convention promo) 2005?

EXE-30720 Capitol Doomtroopers (2) UNRELEASED? OR WERE THESE THE OLD RPG MINIS?

THE FOLLOWING DARK LEGION MINIS I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE NEW SCULPTS/OLD SCULPTS RENAMED OR NEVER RELEASED? MAYBE SEVERAL SCULPTS WERE SOLD UNDER DIFFERENT NAMES?

EXE-40121 Pretorian Enforcer (1) COULD THIS BE THE RPG STALKER (Target 7004) FEATURED IN FICTIONAL REALITY #10?
EXE-40120 Cursed Legionnaires (4) COULD THESE BE THE RESCULPTS OF THE UNDEAD LEGIONNAIRES (Target 11130)?
EXE-40155 Acolyte Leader (1)
EXE-40158 Initiate Leader (1)
EXE-40161 Sacristan Leader (1)
EXE-40412 Dissidents (4)

Latex Statues (10"-13")
EXE-9003 Ilian Templar         
EXE-9002 Keeper of the Art     
Necromutant Alpha   
Necromutant Beta     
Necromutant Charlie   
EXE-9004 Undead Legionnaire 1
EXE-9005 Undead Legionnaire 2 
EXE-9006 Undead Legionnaire 3 
EXE-9001 Valpurgan Razide


List #3: Unreleased miniatures/cast after Excelsior's fall

EXE-30241 Dunsirn/Blood Beret Sniper Sniper (by Jarek)
EXE-30244 Golden Lion Grenadier/Demo Specialist (by Jarek)
EXE-XXXXX Stormtrenchers x3 (by Jarek)
EXE-XXXXX ISC Agent & ISC Agent w. HMG (by jarek)

EXE-30429 Ronin Samurai Sniper
EXE-30430 Crimson Devil Grenade Specialist/Demo Spec
EXE-30432 Divine Wrath Strike Craft
EXE-30434 Meka Typhoon Class
EXE-XXXXX Kikigomae Monks
EXE-XXXXX Ashigaru Typhoon Rocket Team (by Jarek)


EXE-30522 Machinator Mark II HMG Specialist (by Jarek)
EXE-30525 Chasseur RL Specialist
EXE-XXXXX 19th Silent (by Jarek)


EXE-40563 Cossacks (2)
EXE-40508 Cavaliers (2)
EXE-40510 Heavy Cavalry (1)
EXE-40609 Panthera Cavalry (2) (by jarek)
EXE-XXXXX Purger Beast (by Jarek)

Bonus list: Rare Target Minis

9890 Warhound Chieftain SEEMS LIKE THIS WAS NEVER RELEASED? OR IS THIS THE BLADEMASTER ABOVE?
9625 Bio Giant (OLD CONCEPT THAT WAS SCRAPPED? OR SIMPLY RENUMBERED INTO 10504?
1224 ALWAYS MISSING FROM LISTS...
XXXX Rivetbull  Cossack Scout Beast (never released) 1997
XXXX Crescentian Beast (never released) 1997
XXXX Templar Beast (never released) 1997
XXXX Trencher Sergeant THE OLD VERSION SCULPTED IN 1994 AND FEATURED IN CHRONICLES #6 (1997) p. 7

XXXX Warzone diorama NEVER SEEN PRODUCT CODE FOR THIS ONE EITHER?

9543 Unknown Lutheran Disciple? FEATURED IN CHRONICLES #9 (1997) p. 10. NEVER SEEN THIS ONE ANYWHERE ELSE?

[DARNIZHAAN]

Ral Partha Europe was selling the diorama.

I have a bunch of the old Mutant Chronicles RPG miniatures.  Perhaps they reused some of the old sculpts from the doomtrooper packs.

[Bobban]

Ral Partha Europe was selling the diorama.

I have a bunch of the old Mutant Chronicles RPG miniatures.  Perhaps they reused some of the old sculpts from the doomtrooper packs.

Oh, do you mean that they created the diorama? Or resold it later, after Target's reconstruction?

In Fictional Reality #10 a recast of a Pretorian Stalker was featured, so I guess maybe they had access to the at least some of the molds for the old RPG line sculpted in 92-94?

[DARNIZHAAN]

Here are links to the original sculpts for the Mutant Chronicles RPOG miniatures.

https://www.mutantkult.com/manufacturer/heartbreaker/

http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lostminiswiki/index.php?title=Mutant_Chronicles_%28Heartbreaker%29

Looks like RPE doesnt have the diorama anymore.

[drnovice]

EXE-40509 Lutheran Euthanasi 2005

Into never officially released list are missing:

• Cybertronic 19th Silent
• Imperial ISC Agents (Gendarmery)
• Mishima Ashigaru Typhoon Rocket Team (Mortar)

IIRC to represent Doomtroopers in UWZ, it was used the RPG miniatures couple for every Megacorporation.

[Bobban]

EXE-40509 Lutheran Euthanasi 2005

Into never officially released list are missing:

• Cybertronic 19th Silent
• Imperial ISC Agents (Gendarmery)
• Mishima Ashigaru Typhoon Rocket Team (Mortar)

IIRC to represent Doomtroopers in UWZ, it was used the RPG miniatures couple for every Megacorporation.

Thanks for that code for the Euthanasi, where did you find that?

About the other three unreleased minis, do you mean that these were sculpted (which I've never seen) but never cast and released? Or that they only had artwork/concept sketches done (which I have seen)?

Also I've added the big beasts from Dark Eden to the list, since these were sculpted and featured in Chronicles from the Warzone during 1997, but never given a code and never released.

[drnovice]

You can see on the official Excelsior blister picture.
I'll send you picture in private because this forum can't let to upload any files.
I found some also catalogs with Target & Excelsior codes (pdf).

Some miniatures are known as prototypes, never officially released by Excelsior, but scupted by Jarek, he collaborated in the past with Excelsior and maybe even for Target.
These figures are marked "RMM 08", so created near 2008:

- Storm Trenchers (sgt, hmg, flame thrower)
- ISC Agents (regular & hmg specialist)
- Blood Beret Sniper
- Golden Lion Demo specialist
- Mishima Rocket Team (Mortar)
- 19th Silent
- Machinator MK II hmg specialist

Jarek scupted then also Pantera Cavalry pose, I have them too.


Here some reference

"RMM 08" Miniatures:
http://www.czechwarzone.cz/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=22

Jarek's Panthera Cavalry:
http://wargamer.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7097


If anyone has some of these poses, please write me in private.
I can exchange with some rare stuff by Target, Excelsior and even RPG metal miniatures.

[Bobban]

Thanks, I've added Jarek's minis that were cast after Excelsior's fall to the list. I've also changed the Kristmas Karnophage to released status, since I just aquired it! The seller said it was sculpted in 1994 by Target Games as a celebratory release within the company, but Excelsior later released it during Christmas of 2005.

[pinksuezo]

instead of starting a new thread i thought i would post in this thread. Does anyone have the photo that used to be up in the forum of the unreleased green sculpts of the lutheran pistolier cavalry, lutheran heavy gunner cavalry, and i think stormtrenchers too? i swear i had that pic but cant find it anywhere now.

[pinksuezo]

ah, found it:

unreleased by Eduardo Cuellar, on Flickr