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Offline Dr. Nick

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2007, 03:18:11 AM »
wait, I also thought that the rl ap rockets get reduced damage when miss (exposion goes off close)!
just donīt ignore mp and cover
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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2007, 01:55:37 PM »
wait, I also thought that the rl ap rockets get reduced damage when miss (exposion goes off close)!
just donīt ignore mp and cover

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2007, 02:33:35 PM »

RL with AP rockets: ToHit roll for the template, if missed all miniatures under the template are safe?

You don't use a template with AP rockets.  As Joe said, "It's a big bullet".

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2007, 03:49:35 PM »
Wedge, i think you are incorrect... AP rockets use the small explosion template, and do less damage the more you "miss" by.

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2007, 04:34:09 PM »
AP is anti-personel and uses the templete.
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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2007, 07:44:30 PM »
Sorry wedge, i tried to avoid using the AP name cause it can get confusing at times.  The big bullet is the standard, regular old issue rocket.  The AP rocket (anti-personnell) is the optional load out and it uses the template with the degrading damage system.

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2007, 09:47:16 PM »
Obviously... I am confused!   :P :-[

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2007, 06:08:25 AM »
Sorry wedge, i tried to avoid using the AP name cause it can get confusing at times.  The big bullet is the standard, regular old issue rocket.  The AP rocket (anti-personnell) is the optional load out and it uses the template with the degrading damage system.

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So what you wrote some time ago was not referred to AP rockets but just to the standard RL shot?
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Actually.... The Scorpion's RL is not indirect fire. This is a typo. It came up in the FAQ team discussions waay back when and unfortunatly the servers went down before it made it to popular discussion. If it were an Indirect fire weapon it would be the only RL that is as such as well as a never miss weapon as given that the RC of the Scorpion is so high and the damage of the weapon is as well. Couple that with the indirect fire ignoring Cover and the weapon could not actually miss. so yes. It is not an indirect fire weapon. -PFC joe
If this is the case, the scorpion RL with AP rockets is devastating, with the reduced damage system

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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2007, 08:01:44 AM »
Yes the Scorpion can be devastating. Anytime you can make an opponent make rolls for armor saves its a good thing.. and when you can do it in bunches its even better  ;D You can being at least 3 in a 1000pt army if you choose to and then multi-wound models look out!!!  :)
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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2007, 02:14:16 PM »
The Scorpion rocket is a typo!



It has Huge amounts of damage, but cover can ameliorate that somewhat.

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« Last Edit: January 26, 2007, 02:21:23 PM by PFC joe »
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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2007, 04:33:39 PM »
The Scorpion rocket is a typo!



It has Huge amounts of damage, but cover can ameliorate that somewhat.

-PFC joe

(I was hopin this one wouldn't come up)

The regular rocket is nasty but its hit or miss. The AP round can make you roll an armor save almost everytime.
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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2007, 06:03:07 AM »
well, but just the scorpion..

normally I try to shoot at w2+ models in single shot, because a (e.g.) S5 hit rarely does something useful, compared with a 13x2 hit at a soulslayer..

S10 is normally a AR job, not a valuable RL shot.
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Re: Indirect Direct Fire?
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2007, 06:51:52 AM »
... ameliorate ...

Joe, spit out the Thesaurus, and no one gets hurt...now, slowly back away.
If sing, sang, and sung, sink, sank, and sunk, and drink, drank, and drunk, how is it that it isn't bring, brang, and brung, think, thank and thunk, and ding, dang, and dung?

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