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Offline mchiao

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Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« on: September 27, 2005, 04:27:02 AM »
Phoenix Samurai only has 2 actions?

Is this right?

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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2005, 04:36:32 AM »
yes this is correct, the guys are half-dead, so they move and react slightly slower than they did in their prime.  But don't let the 2 actions discourage you, their MG does hella damage at SR and PB.  Also used with a healer(ie. Ameratsu) they can be pretty effective.
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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2005, 04:56:01 AM »
Jep they are not good within attack army but they are IMHO superb Mishiman defense unit.
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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2005, 06:19:47 PM »
There are many ways to use Phoenix Samurai. You must plan that strategy wiith two actions in mind.
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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2007, 03:28:05 AM »
From my mind the Phoenix with 2 actions are so rich to using.... (33 P)... dontīthink?

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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2007, 10:13:30 PM »
No offense man but arguing point costs is like arguing with the sky about the weather, give it a rest already.

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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2007, 09:17:20 PM »
33 Points is ok

that may just be 2 A, but they also have 2 W  -> 16.5 / W

(100 P phoenix samurai = 6 A, 6 W, HMG)


if you compare them to attilas 43 P  -> ~14 P / w

(100 P attilas = 7 A,  W 7, weak AC)
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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2007, 11:55:26 PM »
if this is O.K., i understand nothing....

i see this:

3x phoenix = 6A, 6W, AR 22 - 99 points
2x attilas = 6A, 6W, AR 22 - 86 points (weak AC? - 10x2, AV-2, with RC 11?)

head problem with phoenix is move - when you must move with army (not be sitionary, but in maneuver combat), his movement is too small (6 inch/round).....

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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2007, 07:27:14 AM »
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3x phoenix = 6A, 6W, AR 22 - 99 points
2x attilas = 6A, 6W, AR 22 - 86 points (weak AC? - 10x2, AV-2, with RC 11?)


 more or less,
its a little more than 2 attilas, see my calculation on AC, W

the autocannon is not bad, or an AR, but it is no HMG
the mashinegun gets boni closer, the AC just negative (after PB). also, it is not DAM14

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head problem with phoenix is move - when you must move with army (not be sitionary, but in maneuver combat), his movement is too small (6 inch/round).....


well.. if together with 2 or 3 vehicles they are very good meatshilds

of course, they donīt get in range, but they are good W/P/AR value.
if you advance in cover you will be max 2-3 rounds in the open.. 2 A is few, but not to few. no shooting with this tactic  likely, though.

IF you get charged, they are there then and mow down any CC speadfreaks..
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Re: Phoenix Samurai's Stat
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 06:04:24 AM »
autocannon has no DAM 14, but in medium range has 10x2 .....