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Offline Dr. Nick

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Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« on: April 17, 2007, 05:45:24 AM »
does the gunslinger ability imply to shoot at a closer enemy at their backs because they can?

gunslinger is about to turn around while moving (without models actually turn), not having a real 360° turrent
-> so i think not?
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2007, 09:29:11 AM »
Page 74 A model with the Gunfighter special ability may choose to fire at a model in its rear facing, if that model is within the Gunslingers LD value in inches. Therefore, Gunslinger models have a 360-degree firing arc.   He does'nt have to he can choose to.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2007, 10:00:49 AM »
well, i was not sure because the phrase

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Therefore, Gunslinger models have a 360-degree firing arc.


i interpretated the "may choose" as "have the ability" and not as "may actually choose something" (like ignoring enemies close)

thanks, i love my AM  8) :)
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2007, 10:15:00 AM »
Remember you only have to target the closest model in your forward firing arc, if he chooses to target a model in his rear arc the other models are now in his rear arc and not priority targets.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2007, 10:25:26 AM »
?? is this true? can gunslinger change the facing of a fig?

then, if he can spin around, what about CC bonus agains his rear facing?

logically (ha) he should be able to avoid this.. (anyway, is there a rear facing bonus, or just fleeing penalty, canīt remeber..)
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2007, 10:35:09 AM »
He's really no changing his facing, he's changing his firing arc.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2007, 03:11:02 PM »
I believe, though, that you would still have to make a Tac Sense roll to fire at something in your rear arc if they are not the closest models...

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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2007, 03:28:54 PM »
Not with Gunslinger besides AM Sgt does not have Tac-Sense.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2007, 04:26:54 PM »
hmm...might have to play my Turtle Marines more often then...means I have to paint the rest of the squad...(darn)...

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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2007, 06:56:47 AM »
I need to actually open it and look at more than army composition.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2007, 07:18:50 AM »
I still personally think that the AM's are one of Capitals best elite squads.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2007, 09:05:50 AM »
Quote from: Dragon62 on April 18, 2007, 07:18:50 AM
I still personally think that the AM's are one of Capitals best elite squads.
yes, they are the best! (well, perhaps not compared with ALL troops)

esp. the deadshot is their bonus.. makes them almost impossible to attack in CC (with hmg spec or char close)
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2007, 01:30:11 PM »
deadshot is what makes them nasty, especially when combined with Free Marines and those Brass Knuckles they have...

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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2007, 01:35:45 PM »
Deadshot, Gunslinger, RC-11, AR-22 and a Dam 11 Gun is what makes them nasty.
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Re: Assault Mariens - need to shoot in 360° ?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2007, 02:18:43 PM »
Quote from: Dragon62 on April 18, 2007, 01:35:45 PM
Deadshot, Gunslinger, RC-11, AR-22 and a Dam 11 Gun is what makes them nasty.

those things do certainly help, but since I also play Imperial, one of my favorite things to do, depending on the scenario I'm playing, is have a nice CC unit like Wolfbanes or Loughton Rams go into CC backed up by those trusty Trencher lads and have them as shooting support...

I've done the same thing with my CapNav force, but it doesn't always work, since a lot of the time the Free Marines beat up whatever they've charged before the Assault Marines have a chance to get the shots in...

the only thing I don't like about Assault Marines is I hate painting them...

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