shock troops confusion

[pinksuezo]

ahoy.  thinking of getting a cybertronic shock trooper squad, but running into some confusion.

i have found the following figures available:
9879 shock troops sergeant
9880 shock troops captain
9881 shock trooper with heavy weapon


k so 9879 is the guy with the assault rifle, right?
BUT on different websites (i.e. spirit games, other places), i have seen pics of 9881 as either the guy with the gehenna puker OR the guy with the LMG. Which of the pictures is labeled correctly? And what does that make 9880?

oh, and another thing: my 2nd ed army list has a shock trooper grenadier specialist listed. was this figure ever made?  it does look like the shock troopers are already holding grenades in their hands..

thanks in advance.

[dmcgee1]

See p. 342 of UWZ (3rd Ed.).

Shock Trooper GL Spec has GL-3500 Grenade Launcher in Left hand with belt fed grenades wrapping around to the gun.
Shock Trooper LMG Spec has SSW-4000 Light Machine Gun in two-handed pose with belt-fed ammo.
Troopers each have P-1000 Machine Pistol and Smoke Grenades.
There is no picture of Chem Spec.  I am not sure if there is a model made for it.
he Sgt. has the AR-3000 Assualt Rifle (with what appears to be a scope on p. 343).
The Captain has the Gehenna Puker (see color pages in middle of book).

[pinksuezo]

thanks. i ask cus i only have the 2nd edition books and they dont necessarily have the same labels as the miniatures packages or all the pictures. i especially needed to know if the captain was the guy with the puker, which is good. wanna light some fires.

[wmeredith]

Hello.

I suggest getting a copy of ultimate warzone it really makes the game much better. I think there are copies in pdf format I am not sure.

wmeredith.

[pinksuezo]

ya lol i been meaning to download it but the files too large so ive cancelled it halfway a couple times. i know ill get it done sometime, or just buy a copy off ebay. ive seen it there a few times. thanks.

but ya, these shock troops r gonna rock, since my mighty cybertronic army currently consists of a few chasseurs, cyril dent, and a lonely atilla lmao.

[wmeredith]

Hello.

If you need proxies I would suggest the Viridian figures from Urban Mammoth I am planning on basing any future Cybertronic army off of them.

wmeredith.

[pinksuezo]

ya ive been checking out the proxies u guys list.

found a real neat cybertronic army on ebay right now too. dont think im gonna bid on it though:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110115067100&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:

[Dr. Nick]

ya lol i been meaning to download it but the files too large so ive cancelled it halfway a couple times.

use a downloader with a resume function, i think the server supports that.
(opera, eg)

i know ill get it done sometime, or just buy a copy off ebay. ive seen it there a few times. thanks.

yes? wow, i did not thougt so.. how much is a page printed in a copyshop? woth to ship it?
(i mean, why would anyone buy it and not go to a copyshop himself?)

my copy (even thought i have 3 original uwz) is also printed, w.o. army lists and a seperate book is the army lists from this clean pdfīs.

-> very handy

but ya, these shock troops r gonna rock,

think so?

if i were to bild a effective force, i would opt for 2*3 attilas, 2 scorpions and maschinator II (mk1 models..)
perhaps a chasseur unit with deadshopt.

since my mighty cybertronic army currently consists of a few chasseurs, cyril dent, and a lonely atilla lmao.

why do you donīt bid on that lot, then? (2A and almost no useless doubles)

exept from copying you wonīt get it cheaper, and attilas are very rare on ebay... i got mine from australia, and in about a year, there where perhaps 4 or 5 on ebay.. (+6 just finished for 44$)

[pinksuezo]

thanks for the advice. i did  order two scorpions with my shock troops from aro consulting. i think there are machinators too but i can hold off on those.

[Veez]

What are other people's thoughts on the shock troops?  I am frankly not that impressed-they can paradeploy but their weapons are short ranged and their HTH skills seem unspectacular.

Other's opinions?

[PhillySniper]

Im not a  fan. Their RC  makes them not the greastest for putting in closer to troops and average HTH make for a not very appealing tactical situation. Their LD is ok so they should land ok and have actions remaining. If everything goes well they can be worth the points but I can think of better uses for 300 PTS.

[Dr. Nick]

not to forget the measly 1 LP...

the only think worth is the captain with FT..

[dmcgee1]

I like 'em!  Give 'em Optic Enhancement, Night Vision and drop them in with smoke and watch 'em light up a DZ.  Drop the Captain in, first, and reveal the enemy's deployment, then drop in the reinforcements!

[Topkick]

dmcgee once again points out the value of adapting tactics to troop strengths. Karma to you Sir.

All para-deploy troops have one strength in common. The capability of opening a second front. Even if they are wiped out to a man they divert enemy resources and allow your main troops to advance and engage on your terms. However that is the worst use as it is basically throwing away the points. Take the time to match the troop abilities with the other battlefield factors (terrain, mission objectives, etc) and you will discover the hidden value of all troops in the game. To quote an old First Sergeant  - "there are no useless troops, only useless commanders". "Top" Riblett coined that pearl of wisdom when some 90 day wonder candidates were harrassing a work detail I was on.

[wmeredith]

Hello.

Have to agree with Topkick on this one. Today I paradeployed my Romanov Blitzers behind Iron Panda's lines and proceeded to light the place up. They took out a pretorian behemoth and valpurgius before it was all over. I have to say I they helped me win the game.

wmeredith