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Offline PhillySniper

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Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« on: October 06, 2005, 05:12:00 PM »
Im looking to start a DL army. Any suggestions from former or current DL players as to how I should proceed? Im thinking of running a base Muawijhe force. Any suggestions?

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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2005, 08:06:29 PM »
You can't have enough Angels of Mercy.

Between Immaculate furies (always get the Impercepter individual) you've got some ridiculously hard hitting troops without the need for smokeor really any cover.  The Angels of Mercy lead the way and whatever you want follows behind them.

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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2005, 10:12:01 PM »
Karnophage horde! Muahaha.  Actually though, a Squad of soulslayers led by a Slaughtermaster is very, very scary.  Muawhijhe is such a fast army that if your oppenent doesnt get his targeting priorities straight, he'll get boned.
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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2005, 08:49:14 AM »
I'll echo and elaborate on LAWwaldo's comments, Muawijhe is really a very fast army, but there is a noteworthy Schism between the styles of its troops, Fast CC.  One of the first decisions you will have to make is regarding your grunt squads: Karnophages are very quick, but without support they're just fast moving bullet catchers, they don't have the armor to close over any open field at all.  I find the screaming legionaires to be a mixed bag as well, the range on thier SA makes it more a defense against a CC opponent than an offensive tactic, I've never really been able to use it effectively. Furthermore being Necroorganic means no MP, or wait which is a pretty big deal, you also have to deal with the loss of an action should your Soulslayer leader get taken out, but he does have more armor and mutliple wounds which helps.  If you take screaming legionaires make sure to get the flamer specialist.

As to your elite choices they're all great.   The biggest limitation of the Immaculate Furies is that they have only shotguns and limited speed to get into position, this is made up for by the leader and Imperceptor's Nazgaroth.   They're esspecially good in scenarios where your on the defensive.  Soulslayers are awsome, with their speed and effective use of cover you can get this guys into CC without too much difficulty and once they're there, th-th-th-thats all folks.

For Individuals, Joe is right the Angel of Mercy is your friend, theirs nothing more annoying than being charged out of stalk by the lurking angel, then having your troopers on wait take shot at him only to see him vanish again.  The Doomsday Proclaimer can be useful because he has the speed and mobility to keep up with a fast strike army, and his special ability can help keep any karnophages you may have brought along panic free, which you'll need since as I mentioned if they ever get caught in a firing lane they become fast moving bullet catchers in a hurry.  The nepharite of Muawijhe is a monster inside of short range and some of the spells can be nasty against low leadership armies like capitol.

Support, the heavy hitters of the force.  The Ezoghoul is awsome.  Secondary attack, fast enough to outpace a hurricane walker, a weapon with ROF, plus the armor and wounds to take a bit of the fire that is sure to be concetrated on him.  Add the abilty to launch smoke, and you've got an excellent utility support.  I've never tried the drop pod but I think with the fast movement and decent damage of the Karnophage you could potentially make an effective flanking manuever by dropping this behind your enemy's lines, in the same section that your fast movers are charging from the front, but I think this will be too expensive to be worthwhile.

One of my Favorite tactics is to spearhead a charge of Karnophages and a doomsday proclaimer with a smoke throwing Ezoghoul, the high armor of the Ezoghoul plus the cover of the smoke allows the karnophage to live long enough to get into CC.

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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2005, 11:04:46 AM »
Forget about apostle-based forces for starters. Begin with a basic Horde Army - couple of Necromutant and Praetorian squads, a Razide or two... DL is powerful, but it is really difficult to create and command an efficient apostle-based DL army - the apostle troops are very specialized. Horde troops are much easier to handle (even for corporate veterans, DL plays completely different...). A Horde core is usually an important element of the army.
If you want to play Muawijhe, then the Reaver is your friend. Put a squad of Furies inside, preferably with Imperceptor attached, drop Praetorians near enemy lines to draw fire, use Reaver to get Furies to the front line, and to cover Zenithian and Karnophage approach (mobile cover, anyone?). Use Necromutants either for fire support or assault - depending on circumstances. They're solid, dependable troops, despite their (rather poor* IMO) assault rifles. Ah.. and do not bother with Muawijhe Nepharites - Valpurgius is so much better as the force commander...

*Dam 11 you say? Yes, but they're too inaccurate. I'd prefer Kratach-armed necromutants.

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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2005, 11:22:14 AM »
The force I had primed her at the shop is a Cult Force. I will see if I can find the exact list. I opted for a Cult force at the time for two reasons.
1) I don't see them much.
2) They have some delicious synergy.
They lack the cool beasts of the Apostles and the Horde, but they are a fun troop nonetheless. I really need to finish painting them.
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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2005, 12:32:45 PM »
The force I had primed her at the shop is a Cult Force. I will see if I can find the exact list. I opted for a Cult force at the time for two reasons.
1) I don't see them much.
2) They have some delicious synergy.
They lack the cool beasts of the Apostles and the Horde, but they are a fun troop nonetheless. I really need to finish painting them.


"Delicious synergy"...that really sounds like a Metzner comment  :o
"I really need to finish painting them"..again a Metzner comment :o

Whats up with that ????? ;) ;D  (INSIDE JOKE ALERT!!)

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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2005, 06:28:57 PM »
Trust me when I say that Semai is the way to go  ;D
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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2005, 12:08:03 PM »
The force I had primed her at the shop is a Cult Force.
Cult force you say... works perfectly with Ilian... Teleporting units with two flamers and Dark Lightning support from the Nepharite (or Darth Salandria ;-) ), with Templars as firebase. Nasty it is.

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Re: Any suggestions for building and running DL?
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2005, 06:33:08 PM »
I agree, the combo of Ilian and Cult is really nasty. I haven't gotten to this stage yet as I wanted to create a pure Cult force of Doom!! (CFoD) :)
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