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VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« on: October 20, 2006, 12:34:27 PM »
Here is the first pic of the general board setup.  We will start easy.

Premise:  On a hot and hazy summer's morning on Venus, a raiding party is dispatched to disable/level/seize a Supply Depot/Manufacturing Plant/Settlement.  Force 1 is attempting to respond to the raid.  Force 2 is the raiding party.
Duration:  6 Turns
Environmental Rules:  Haze (-1 RC per Range Band beyond SR; i.e.:  -1 RC at MR, -2 RC at LR and -3 RC at ER)
Deployment:  12" Deep, 6" from either side.
Objective:  At the end of Turn 6, calculate Victory Points using Tounament Points System, plus the following:

 - Raiding Party:  Enter* center building and, with at least one model, spend an entire turn destroying communications/stores/civilian personnel...+1 VP
 - Raiding Party:  Find important civilian individual and kidnap* (get off board via Friendly DZ)...+1 VP
 - Defense Force:  Prevent raiding party from succeeding in destruction mission and/or kidnap mission...+1 VP each

* - Enter and destroy:  All buildings are accessible, though the doors are "locked" for the raiders.  Use 15.1 Terrain Options (pp. 96-97) for destruction of Treated Timber doors.  They are not locked for the defender, but, with the exception of the center building, there are designed for SZ 2 models, only.  Defender still must spend an AC to open a door, and another to close (if desired).  Doors left open by the defender may be exploited by the raider.
* - Kidnap:  Four markers will be randomly placed (2 per player).  Markers may not be placed in buildings, nor may they be placed within 6" of either DZ.  Markers do not move until captured.  One will be the important individual.  Neither player will know which marker is the individual.  In order to capture, spend an AC in base contact with marker.  In oreder to get VP, marker must be escorted off board through friendly Deployment Zone.

If there are any questions, feel free to ask, along the way.  I will try to update this before and after the battle, with pics, and a full summary.



(Yes, I know - I need to get my terrain painted - thanks for noticing)
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 01:07:35 PM »
Dave your terrian........it needs to be painted.
maybe some sand or fake grass stuff would be good too.



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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 01:14:41 PM »
____ off!  ;)  I'll bet my computer's cooler than yours!  :P

masher, how's this scenario look, so far, for the playtest?
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 06:20:44 PM »
Little overcrowded with terrain pieces to test the Vulkans. Removing two  terrain pieces (the black building[?] near those white rocks / white building, and those grey tanks) can change the outcome of this battle.
I not familiar with the term “Tournament Points System”. Some info would be appreciated.
Isn’t the silver thing in the right lower corner of the table  a cpu radiator? I could have sworn, that I’ve seen a VHS tape somewhere on this table. :P
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2006, 08:44:53 PM »
Quote from: Heretyk on October 20, 2006, 06:20:44 PM
Little overcrowded with terrain pieces to test the Vulkans. Removing two  terrain pieces (the black building[?] near those white rocks / white building, and those grey tanks) can change the outcome of this battle.
I not familiar with the term “Tournament Points System”. Some info would be appreciated.
Isn’t the silver thing in the right lower corner of the table  a cpu radiator? I could have sworn, that I’ve seen a VHS tape somewhere on this table. :P

I think that first line of Heretyk's statement, sums up the problem concerning Vulkans. For the group that Dave, Jeff and I play with that is a standard level of terrain. I have seen pics from some of the overseas players where there are large open spaces in the middle of the board so that you can start shooting from the first activation. In that enviornment Vulkans would be unstoppable as would most Bauhaus units with the Panzernacker AR. If you are going to test the Vulkans you have to use all kinds of terrain amounts. Not just ones to limit the Vulkans and not just ones where they can move once and fire away for the rest of the game.

On the above table, there are a couple of long fire lanes for the Vulkans to take advantage of but most of the paths from what I see bring the battle to MR and below.

I think the Vulkans are fine as they are. Are they awesome? YES Are they underpriced? IMO NO As Ive read on here from a couple of people, if someone wants to bring an all Vulkan  army, fine, Ill say congrats on the win and go have a beer while I wait for another game.  Most gamers that I have played against wouldnt do that. They play for the fun and enjoyment of the people they are playing with. Ive faced some very difficult force lists <especially from Dragon62 and Archer> but they used imagination and fluff to design their forces.

 Is the UWZ system perfect, No But I think we all agree that its one of the best systems out there, which is why we are all here, still talking about and playing an unsupported game.

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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2006, 01:34:05 AM »
Do you play the Vulcan army against a "normal force" or against a force wich is on an equal powerlevel? As i understand the test both forces will be on a high powerlevel. I'm interessted in the chances of a player with a normal rounded force of different types of grunt, elite and support units (no individuals or unit double in the force).
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2006, 10:20:43 AM »
Quote from: Ruther on October 21, 2006, 01:34:05 AM
Do you play the Vulcan army against a "normal force" or against a force wich is on an equal powerlevel? As i understand the test both forces will be on a high powerlevel. I'm interessted in the chances of a player with a normal rounded force of different types of grunt, elite and support units (no individuals or unit double in the force).

Most times unless its requested Dave doesnt use more than a squad or two< with higher point  totals> of Vulkans in his force. I play against him with "normal" forces and do well. Our last battle I used DL with only one HMG and one AC in the force and took out two of his Vulkans <I believe he had 4> before the game ended due to the turn limit.
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2006, 11:40:16 AM »
Quote from: Heretyk on October 20, 2006, 06:20:44 PM
Little overcrowded with terrain pieces to test the Vulkans. Removing two  terrain pieces (the black building[?] near those white rocks / white building, and those grey tanks) can change the outcome of this battle.
I not familiar with the term “Tournament Points System”. Some info would be appreciated.
Isn’t the silver thing in the right lower corner of the table  a cpu radiator? I could have sworn, that I’ve seen a VHS tape somewhere on this table. :P

Good eyes!  Yeah, it's a radiator, and there are about 9 VHS tapes on the table.  As for the density of terrain, this is about normal, for us.  There are two or three fire corridors for the Vulkans, but, only if exploited properly.
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2006, 11:42:01 AM »
Quote from: Ruther on October 21, 2006, 01:34:05 AM
Do you play the Vulcan army against a "normal force" or against a force wich is on an equal powerlevel? As i understand the test both forces will be on a high powerlevel. I'm interessted in the chances of a player with a normal rounded force of different types of grunt, elite and support units (no individuals or unit double in the force).

I will, gladly, test that theory, too, Ruther.  :)
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2006, 02:32:41 PM »
Quote from: Ruther on October 21, 2006, 01:34:05 AM
Do you play the Vulcan army against a "normal force" or against a force wich is on an equal powerlevel? As i understand the test both forces will be on a high powerlevel. I'm interessted in the chances of a player with a normal rounded force of different types of grunt, elite and support units (no individuals or unit double in the force).

I had my all Cartel agent army fight against daves vulkans with great success.
thats about as normal army you can get....hell no one even has a rifle.

has for as terrian on the table.
thats about as much we play with at maplewood (depending of course on the scenario) and at cons.
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2006, 03:12:47 PM »
Pics of battle:

Turn 0 (T0):  Marker Setup and Deployment

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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2006, 06:49:11 PM »
Looks good looking forward to playbyplay ;D, picturebypicture reporting soon ;D. Hope you had a royal blast. ;)

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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2006, 09:27:20 AM »
T1:  JB wins Init
  JB:  chooses to activate (act) Ducal Militia Squad 1 (Ducs1) and snags an Individual marker.  He decides not to hsutle it to the DZ.  Reveals two Cyber False Leads.  The rest of the Ducs-1 decide to camp ot behind the building and await further instruction.
  DC:  act Mirrormen (MM) and snags a Marker, transferring it around the building towards the Cyber DZ.
  JB:  reveals False Lead
  DC:  act Machinator Mk I Squad 1 (MkI-1) and breaks down door (after several tries, finally putting enough wounds on it) and gets a Mk I inside.
  JB:  act Ducs-2 and move into and fires down "Vulkan Alley", wounding a MM.
  DC:  act MkI-2 and take position near MM, transferring Marker.
  JB:  act Max Steiner (Max) who fires down "Vulkan Alley" to no effect.
  DC:  act MkI-3. Take position behind Center Building.
  JB:  act Vulkans Squad 1 (Blue).  Taking position with Ducs-2, firing at MkI-1, Killing two MkI-1's (no panic).
  DC:  act MkI-4. Grab Marker between two storage tanks.
  JB:  act Hussars, forming fire line along hills to cover the storage tanks.
  DC:  act Supoort Scorpion (Scorp-S), advancing while using storage tanks as cover.
  JB:  Reveals False Lead
  DC:  EDD advances between maufacturing buildings, killing a Ducs-1.
  JB:  act Mortar Team (Mort) and kills 1 MM and wounds 2 MkI-1's .
  DC:  act Atillas (AtSc) and advance through tank farm.  Hussars come off of Wait to no effect with Scorpion in lead.
  JB:  act Vulkans Squad 2 (Black).  Take position on hill behind Hussars.

Ducs-2 move to secure "Vulkan Alley"




"Vulkan Alley"




End of T1





End of T1

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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2006, 09:58:32 AM »
Looks like its becoming  a nice B-rep :)
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Re: VULKAN PLAYTEST 2006.10.20
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2006, 10:06:39 AM »
T2:  DC wins Init
  DC:  Charge MkI-1's into Ducs-2, killing 2.
  JB:  Opens up with Blue, killing a MkI.
  DC:  MM kill a Blue.
  JB:  Ducs-2 kill a MM.
  DC:  MkI-3 CC a  Ducs-1.
  JB:  Advance to close, assuming defensive positions.
  DC:  MkI-4 get another Marker, bust side door on center building to allow egress for MkI-2.
  JB:  Ducs-1 regroup to Command Radius.
  DC:  MkI-2 create mayhem in Center Building (1 VP).
  JB:  Max fires on EDD.
  DC:  EDD "Rcihard Dances" from behind the buildings, killing 5 Hussars!
  JB:  Black fires down the lane, killing ScorpS and wounds an Atilla.
  DC:  AtSc attacks Black, killing 1 and wounding 1.
  JB:  Mort fires at MkI-1 and -2 - saves made all around!

 
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