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Title: Bayonets load outs
Post by: semai99 on February 05, 2006, 03:25:14 PM
Hi as stated in the rulebook some rifles can have the optional Bayonet Load out attached to them its states which can have load outs in the Lists of the assualt weapons.

But my question is when using a bayonet in CC is your CC still -4 if the rifles CC is -4 as thats really for firing in CC or is it now the -4 + what ever the bonus for the bayonet afixed is?  ie if the bayonet gives you +1CC you are now -3  Just clarifying what i think it would be.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: cS on February 06, 2006, 03:07:23 AM
Its -3. I think its like stabbing and shooting your opponent in cc.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: dmcgee1 on February 06, 2006, 06:21:29 AM
Hi as stated in the rulebook some rifles can have the optional Bayonet Load out attached to them its states which can have load outs in the Lists of the assualt weapons.

But my question is when using a bayonet in CC is your CC still -4 if the rifles CC is -4 as thats really for firing in CC or is it now the -4 + what ever the bonus for the bayonet afixed is?  ie if the bayonet gives you +1CC you are now -3  Just clarifying what i think it would be.

Yes.  Reason - you are still doing the weapons listed DM.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Elfenwahn on July 27, 2006, 04:30:36 PM
page 127 : only sidearmes can be used to shoot in CC


page 131 :

"Rifles can only be used as ad-hoc clubs in close combat to strike and are a bit clumbsy"

"Assault Rifles are, with exception of the Belzach and the Yari Shogun, unwieldy in CC"

Yari has a ST modifier, Belzarach not..

->
a) CC-DAM = ST

b) CC-DAM = RC-DAM of Weapon (so a very heavy clumb ^^-> Snipers and HMGs are even heavier clumbs ^^)

???

Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Jibbajabbawocky on July 28, 2006, 10:17:07 AM
thank god, because the Yari can't hit the broad side of a barn while shooting.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: masherking on July 28, 2006, 10:23:14 AM
thank god, because the Yari can't hit the broad side of a barn while shooting.

yes
yes its true...how we laugh and laug.....oh wait its was only me that was laughing  8)
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Jibbajabbawocky on July 28, 2006, 10:30:30 AM
.... But those Ninja Snipers were sure accurate...


 ;D
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: masherking on July 28, 2006, 10:59:57 AM
.... But those Ninja Snipers were sure accurate...

 ;D

Twice damned ninja snipers....theres  special kind of hate I have for them....a very bad hate....damn ninjas
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Jibbajabbawocky on July 28, 2006, 11:02:36 AM
They just want you to taste some Extreme Range love.  Damage 14 Extreme Range Love.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: masherking on July 28, 2006, 11:09:51 AM
They just want you to taste some Extreme Range love.  Damage 14 Extreme Range Love.

and the knife twists deeper still into my salt filled wound.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Jibbajabbawocky on July 28, 2006, 11:13:57 AM
Their ninja masks will surely hang in the Ninja Hall of Fame for many generations.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Elfenwahn on July 28, 2006, 01:04:12 PM
Äh.. yes.. but my question still is..

Do Rifles (and Co) without a ST-Modifier do  DAM = ST  or DAM = RC-DAM.

And.. why? ^^
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Dragon62 on July 28, 2006, 02:02:27 PM
Unless stated in the special rules of the weapon the damage from clubbing with a gun is the same as if you shot them.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: masherking on July 28, 2006, 02:44:33 PM
Unless stated in the special rules of the weapon the damage from clubbing with a gun is the same as if you shot them.

What dragon said.
I had the same question at the tourny and thats the answer I got.
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: PFC joe on July 28, 2006, 03:16:48 PM
-cough-

my contribution to this discussion as I put it several threads and months ago.


Quote
if no CC weapon, one handed firearms/smg's/melee weapons or natural Attack, then model may make unarmed CC attacks at -4 CC and ST DAM.  Rifles, HMG's, two handed Ranged Combat weapons etc that have a CC stat make attacks at ST DAM.  Bayonettes do full listed weapon damage plus any bonus's

-PFC joe
Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: Elfenwahn on July 29, 2006, 11:08:59 AM
hm...

ok.. so CC-4 and ST DAM is worst case... most rifles give a better CC value..  and if with bayonett the DAM is RC-DAM+1,2,3,6

some Snipers give you a CC value of lower than CC-4 but as you can make an unarmed attack at CC-4 you can just ignore this CC-6 stat..

ok i will do with this info..

Title: Re: Bayonets load outs
Post by: PFC joe on July 29, 2006, 11:12:27 AM
Could you resay that.  It sounds like you're a bit off... but that could just be the translation...

-PFC joe