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Chronopia => Painting & Terrain => Topic started by: insan0 on April 15, 2010, 12:38:27 PM
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As promised here are some pics of my alternate WHFB Dwarfs using the Chronopia Beast Clans.
I am using GF9 magnetic bases along with the GW movement tray. here is a unit of Vulture swordsmen, the first 2 ranks aren't cleaned up or glued to the bases and I still need to work on a command group. The bases and movement tray will be textured before painting, when ever that is..
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/spiffgrayson/Beast%20Clans/IMG_6612.jpg)
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/spiffgrayson/Beast%20Clans/IMG_6614.jpg)
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Can't wait to see them painted up. Are some of those the ones I mailed you?? I'd like to make sure they got to their new home.
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No I haven't received them yet, should be sometime this week.
My immediate goal is to have a 1000pt list consisting of a mix of clans.
Thane - Vulture Talon Lord
20 Warriors - Vulture Swordsmen
20 Warriors - Darktusk Swordsmen? or Bloodbone Gauntlets
10 Quarrelers - Vulture Marksmen
10 Thunderers - converted Bloodbone Axemen? holding rifles.
2 Bolt Throwers or a Cannon
1 Organ Gun or possibly a Gyrocopter
I would use Vulture crew for the Bolt Throwers while possibly using Bloodbones for gun-powder wielding dwarfs and crew.
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Those are going to look great. Keep us posted please.
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Let me know when they arrive. I want to keep my good trader status and see your results. This looks like it's gonna be big!
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I have been trying to find a suitable Bolt Thrower to use with the Dwarfs. I am not a hug fan of the GW one, its okay I guess but It's made out of metal/stone? and I'm not really a fan of the new dwarf fluff/attitude that views wood is an inferior building material.
After a little searching on the web and I found some roman war machines that could fit the bill although they do look slightly 'primitive' compared to many fantasy counterparts. Any thoughts or pointers to other Bolt Throwers/Ballista miniatures would be appreciated.
I would mount both the smaller Scorpio's on a single base to count as a larger bolt thrower comparable to WHFB.
(http://shop.warlordgames.co.uk/ekmps/shops/warlord/images/war_machines_terrain_web.jpg)
Miniatures are from Warlord Games.
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I think those would work just fine.
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Here are a few Blood Bone Axemen I have cleaned up and mounted on bases/tray. I had rounded the pointy toed boots on the first few and felt compelled to trim them all down.
While I think a full unit of 20 with command would look impressive they are some of the few sculpts that I could easily add rifles to. It all depends on the rifle size but I envision them holding the barrel with the stock resting on the ground. I may have to reposition some arms.
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/spiffgrayson/Beast%20Clans/IMG_6626.jpg)
Part of me wants to stay 'true' to the Chronopia fluff and not use any black powder weapons, thoughts?
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Well, it's Warhammer done with Chronopia, so I say go with your gut. You can always convert one just to see how it looks first before committing.
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Have you thought about using Bayonets with the Blood Bone rifles? Maybe using their Ake heads for this purpose?
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My gut says that if I ever plan on playing or even assembling an army larger then 1k, I should have some variety in missile weapons and war machines. So black powder is in, not to mention I have had a hard time finding enough vulture marksmen.
The bayonet idea is a good one. I am still looking for some rifles/muskets to use but I will give them a try.
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Kroot rifles ??
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I received the postal slip for my Prince August order so I should be able to show some more progress soon.
In the mean time I bought the roman war machines set and they are a pretty good fit. However I do not think they will match up to anything more technical such as the planned organ gun.
Now I am eyeing up the following from Black Tree Design. I like that they are not as elaborate as the GW war machines.
Finances permitting I will pick up a pair of bolt throwers and an organ gun. But first I will have everything else cleaned, based and ready for weapon swaps if need be.
(http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/images/P/fa7990.jpg)
(http://www.blacktreedesign.com/northamerica/images/P/fa7986.jpg)
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Kroot rifles ??
I managed to find a couple but they are far to big/long. I have not been able to find any musket or old-style rifles so far, although there are plenty of WWII and Sci-fi weapons out there. Unless anyone knows of a source I will be looking into using the GW thunderers rifles. I am hoping there are some rifles on the sprue with out arms and hands cast to it.
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Now Mantic hasn't released it yet, but this would make an excellent Organ Gun for your forces, once they release it.
http://www.manticblog.com/?cat=7
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Nice, I hadn't been keeping track of Mantic as of late, I will keep an eye on there progress with the Dwarfs.
I did order 2 bolt throwers and an organ gun from Black Tree Design. After placing the order I started to search for some reviews on BTD,.... Apparently most miniatures are better then the low quality pictures they use. However, there shipping times and customer service seem to be terrible. From what I gathered I will receive them,.... eventually.
I have finished cleaning up a unit of Vulture marksmen but the Blood bone gauntlet I just bought have some pretty horrible mould lines and are delaying my progress.
Pictures to come soon, then I am on the war machine crew and warrior command group.
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If they are instock your shipment will be fine, if not, they'll have to cast it first, good luck.
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I am looking forward to the Dwarf sculpts 4A is going to be releasing. Going to be picking up three of the Marksmen, one to lead my unit of crossbows seen below and the second as an engineer on one of the bolt throwers. Someone mentioned doing a simple weapon swap and using him as a legion leader. It's such a good idea I will give it a shot.
So in anticipation of some fresh Vulture brethren here is the cleaned up unit of crossbows.
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/spiffgrayson/Beast%20Clans/IMG_6731.jpg)
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It was Josh that mentioned using the Marksman as an alternative Leader.Should work very well.Following this project and need to get mine moving :-[.
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I've been out carousing and chasing tail. Not a lot of painting. The new Dwarves from Four A should shame me into finishing up my Vultures.
I have a bunch painted, even after selling some to insanO, but I'm working on a GW Foundation Red/Army Painter dip scheme which I've used on my CAV models. Here's hoping it translates well.
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The promise of a local WHFB campaign has rekindled my interest in this project. I have set about basing some new units and working on the command groups.
Here is a rough 1000point army shot. I hope to play some of my first WHFB in the coming days.
(http://i617.photobucket.com/albums/tt255/spiffgrayson/Beast%20Clans/IMG_6998.jpg)
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Looking very good so far.I see that the Vulture clan have brought with them the mighty egg of doom too ;D.
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NOOOO! NOT THE EGG!
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Very nice insan0! Do keep us updated on the army's progress in the campaign.
I was thinking about your army a short time ago and you might could try using Horned one spearmen for thunderers. You could then just find suitable bits for the guns and maybe a "cut down" version of the Kroot rifles might just fit. Not to mention the Horned Ones spearmen could stand in as Bolt Thrower crewmen.
Horned One Axe-Horn warriors for Slayers...
Horned One Warshields (without the shields) for Dwarf Rangers (great weapons & crossbows= :) )...
use two of the crewmen you have now and find an appropriate Dwarf round shield of your taste and put another champion of choice on the shield and you've got a Dwarf Lord& Shield bearers ready for a scrap! I could go on and on.
Good Luck!
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I should have noticed. The egg is a pear ornament which is odd seeing as my girlfriend and I don't like pears.
As far as your suggestions Von Koss, I have been thinking along the same lines. I have a rough 'counts-as' list in my head that I should write down some time.
Warshields on the other hand... I would still have to convince myself to like the models. I am looking forward to seeing some new dwarfs from 4A, with plans for some rank and file I hope to see another ranger.
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I really hope to have a few more released before the end of the year.If all else fails I will send the greens away and sell a few master copies to forum members to cover costs.How does that sound?
The force looks great so far and I cant wait to see it all painted up.Just wish I could sort mine out too ;D.
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After some brainstorming this is the current 'counts-as' list. Using the WHFB list and fitting Chronopia miniatures to the list I am left with some miniatures I would like to use. There are also a fair amount of sculpts not used/listed feel free to suggest, keeping in mind its hard to find some of the EE sculpts.
Characters
Lord/Thane - Vulture talon lord
Battle Standard - 4A Vulture marksmen conversion
Slayers - Axe-Horn champion
Engineers - Jackal clan scouts
Rune Lord/Smith - Keeper, Horn-Skull champion
*Anvil of Doom - Could use a Blood Totem as an altar?
Infantry
Warriors - B.B. Clawsmen, H.O. Swordsmen, D.T. Darkstars
Longbeards - Vulture Swordsmen
Quarrelers - Vulture crossbows
Thunderers - B.B. Axemen
Rangers - ?
Miners - D.T. Dark-Axe warriors
Hammerers - Vulture mallet warriors
Ironbreakers - Dragon clan slaves
Slayers - Axe-Horn warriors
War Machines by clan
Bolt thrower - Vulture
Gyrocopter - Vulture
Cannon - Blood-Bone
Organ Gun - Blood-Bone
Grudge[stone] Thrower - Horned-Ones
Flame Cannon - Dark-Tusk
Allies/Dogs of War?
Horned-Ones spearmen - I have enough for a full unit of 20 with command. If I can base the unit without everyone impaling there comrades.
Horned & Tusked Raiders - Allied Cavalry?
Poor Wolf Clan, even the Dragon and Jackal make an appearance.
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I'm going to have to look around my dwarf collections and have a little "think" on these conversion/ counts-as possibilities you speak of as now I'm curious.
But the Totem/Anvil and Dragon clan Slaves/Iron breakers is just a fand**ntastic idea. Some karma for you sir.