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Title: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 12, 2009, 07:59:29 PM
Hello all,

I've browsed these forums on-and-off for several years now and got a lot of great modeling/painting ideas.  I felt its about time I contributed. 

I've played Chronopia every so often for many years now, and recently I embarked on a project to create a Dwarven War Totem.  I play 1st edition rules, so I think this is called the War Torkha in the 2nd edition rules, not sure?  I have a lot of pictures to share detailing the construction, but for now I would like to simply share pictures of the completed product.  As you will see from the pictures, I created the model with all 4 Dwarves removable from the Totem itself, with the ability to place them on bases should they dismount during battle.

More to come when I have more time...its getting late and the kids will be up bright and early in the morning!

Totem and Crew:
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030801.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030803.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030805.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030807.jpg)


Just the Totem:
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030789.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030788.jpg)

Crew Member - Crossbow Operator:
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030791.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030793.jpg)

Crew Member - "co-pilot":
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030795.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030796.jpg)


Totem Warriors (2):

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030797.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030798.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030799.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030800.jpg)






Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Manic _Miner on June 13, 2009, 08:19:46 AM
 Nice proxy.I like the Reaper beastie.You have done a good job with the miniatures being seperate.Very good idea.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: joshuaslater on June 13, 2009, 08:31:34 AM
Is that a Reaper Krung Beast?

And where did you get the axes????
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 13, 2009, 08:57:03 AM
Is that a Reaper Krung Beast?

And where did you get the axes????

Yes, Reaper Krung Beast.  And the axes I think are from a Reaper Warlord weapons pack.  I'll be able to verify that as I go through my notes and pictures to update this thread. 
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: joshuaslater on June 13, 2009, 10:34:30 AM
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: leutenantbrittan on June 13, 2009, 11:48:33 AM
Thats a cracking piece of conversion work and excellently painted too!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: joshuaslater on June 13, 2009, 05:35:21 PM
Applaud button, all.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 13, 2009, 05:39:28 PM
Nice proxy.I like the Reaper beastie.You have done a good job with the miniatures being seperate.Very good idea.

Got that idea from a buddy of mine who introduced me to the game.  It's easier to execute for models like the Goblin myrmidon which you don't need to be able to use the goblins as individual troops, just remove them when they die.  In this case I needed to be able to have them mounted, and on foot.  It's not perfect...the totem warriors "slip" off of their posts when they are on their bases.  Makes it hard to move them on the table.  Will try to crimp the nail a bit or I might even add a small magnet to hold them on.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 13, 2009, 05:42:45 PM
Thats a cracking piece of conversion work and excellently painted too!

Thanks, overall I'm happy with the paint job.  I'm always pretty critical of my painting.  I also have less time nowadays so I am trying to be quicker in my methods.  The helmets on these guys are the same as the axe-horn warriors that I previously painted and I struggled with making them look right.  Ended up settling on just drybrushing them gray and calling it good.

I like how the cloak colors turned out, just so happened the deep brown and red I used worked really well together.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: luckyone on June 14, 2009, 08:12:17 AM
Holy cow!  Those are some great figures. Looks like they could qualify for the chariot race IMHO.

Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 14, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Initial Planning and Design

I pondered how I was going to build this thing for quite some time.  I was only going to attempt it if I came up with a design that would look believable on the table, and also was versatile enough for all the riders to dismount onto bases.  In the end, I settled on using the Reaper Krung Beast.  I thought the Krung Beast had several things going for it.  First of all, it looked very "Chronopia"-ish and would blend in well.  Second, it was horned, so would fit the description exactly for a Horned Ones War Totem.  Third, due to its shape it provided natural mounting locations for the crossbow (shoulder "hump"), and the operator to stand (dip in the back) which would not require me to build a "seated" operator.  Fourth, it was big enough to pass as a size 3 model (its roughly the size of the Goblin Myrmidon).

The final "pro" of using the Krung Beast is related to what I see as it's only "con".  I think its a bit too small.  I think if it was slightly larger it would look a little more natural with all 4 Dwarves mounted.  But all and all I'm happy with how well it worked.

As far as the Dwarves, the Horned Legion troops were a natural choice for building proxies.  The 2 crewmen wield swords, so I just needed to modify the crossbow operator to have the sword somewhere out of his hand, and the other crew member could be used "as is".  Both would need slight modification to fit into their mounted positions on the Totem.  The Totem Warriors would just need a swap of weapons since they use axes instead of swords. 

Krung Beast and Horned Legion Warrior, ready for conversion
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030195.jpg)

Part of choosing what models to use was also trying to come up with specifically how I was going to mount the troops on the Totem...I spent a lot of time thinking about how exactly I was going to do that....
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: joshuaslater on June 14, 2009, 03:31:55 PM
more!!!!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 14, 2009, 05:32:52 PM
Creating the Central Platform

So, it took me a while to choose which models to utilize to build the totem, but it probably took me longer to think exactly how I was going to build the means for the dwarves to ride the darn thing.  What I finally landed on was utilizing a pair of "plastic peg thingees for bookshelves" (a technical term).

Plastic Peg Thingees for Bookshelves
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030187.jpg)

I'm not sure if these were really for bookshelves or not, but I found them in my workshop in my box of "miscellaneous small parts that might be useful in modeling someday".  The plan was to use two of them to straddle the Totem with the "peg" parts sticking out away from its body.  I figured the pegs could be integrated somehow in whatever means I come up with to mount the Totem Warriors.  As you can see in the above picture, I have already modified the one on the left.  I've shortened the "platform" section, as leaving it at original length would result in the platform being much too wide.  I've also significantly shaved down the "peg"...and you will see why shortly.

I decided that it would be easiest if I could build small "mini platforms" on each side of the totem which the Totem Warriors could simply stand on.  What I ended up using were a couple of stray parts I had from one of those kits you can buy for hanging mirrors and pictures...the kind of kit that comes with about 5,000 parts, but you really only need 2 of them.  (This kit will come in handy several times).

Stray parts from mirror hanging kit
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030188.jpg)

And wouldn't you know it, the "peg thingees" and the "mirror hanging stray parts" fit perfectly together!

The miniature gods smile kindly upon me, and deem the parts will fit together perfectly
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030205.jpg)

Note at this point I had decided to cut off one "panel" of the metal piece.  I thought about leaving it, which would leave a sort of "curtain" down from the mini-platform on either side of the Totem.  That would allow for some creativity and decor, but it stuck out too far and just didn't look right.  Instead I cut if off, and shaved down the adjoining panel to make the shallowest mini-platform I could.  Also note that at this point I have also shaved down the triangular inner section of the plastic piece to better fit the contour of the Krung Beast.

(Side note: one of the best purchases I ever made was buying a cordless dremel tool and a whole bunch of attachments...I used it a lot for this project!)

So far so good...but there is still a lot of work to be done....
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Veez on June 15, 2009, 03:05:57 AM
That is unspeakably awesome!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Trollen on June 15, 2009, 04:40:43 AM
I've showed those pics to Polish Chronopia gameRs - They were stunned by the perfect work you did! Great RE5P3CT from Poland :)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 15, 2009, 06:03:52 AM
I've showed those pics to Polish Chronopia games - They were stunned by the perfect work you did! Great RE5P3CT from Poland :)

Well, I've got some Polish blood in me, so maybe that helped!  ;)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Alxbates on June 15, 2009, 07:37:06 AM
Wow!  That looks great!  Kudos!

-Alex
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: joshuaslater on June 15, 2009, 11:46:16 AM
I'm going to feint.  The conversion, AND a guide how to do it. 
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 16, 2009, 12:53:32 PM
Creating the Central Platform (continued)

I essentially had two choices for attacking how the Dwarves were going to attach to the Totem and their bases.  In the past I've attached pins to the "rider" and drilled holes in the "mount".  This way the mount looks "cleaner" when the rider is not on the mount.  However, I didn't like the idea of having to create individual dwarf bases with some sort of vertical thin hollow cylinder to accept the pin attached to the rider.

So I decided that I would just have to have pins "jutting" out of the totem, and drill holes in the bottom of the Dwarves.  Then it would be a simple matter of attaching pins to the four dwarves' bases when I got to that point.

For the pins on the Totem Warrior's mini-platforms, I dug once again into my stray mirror/picture hanging parts and found what essentially are nails, except they had an unusual head to them that were ribbed -- I think to make them easier to grasp with your fingers.  (They were designed to use with a sort of J-shaped hook, attaching it to the wall for hanging stuff).  While I had no idea what the head of the nail would represent on the model, I though it provided an interesting feature so I went with it.  I clipped off the sharp point of the nails, drilled a hole in the metal mini-platforms, and glued them in place.

Checking the fit of the pin in the platform
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030207.jpg)

The nail ends were shortened prior to attaching
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030211.jpg)

Now, I almost have all the parts I need for the assembly of the central platform.  One last thing I wanted to do was to make the main platform (where the crossbow operator would stand) look a little more interesting than just the flat plastic.  I went poking around at a hobby store and looked the various types of balsa wood used to build hobby airplanes.  I found a piece which was "striped" that I thought would look like planks of wood when used on the platform.  So it was a simple matter of cutting a small piece to size.  Once I had that, I just glued the plastic pieces to the wood, then glued the two mini-platforms to the plastic pegs...and lo and behold, our War Totem central platform is complete!

Cutting the wooden platform
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030199.jpg)

Attaching the wood platform and the plastic pieces
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030209.jpg)

With the mini-platforms attached, this piece is complete! (scrap plastic in background is just for support)
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030215.jpg)

Now, before I starting gluing stuff to the Totem itself, I thought it might be wise to make sure that the Totem Warriors that were yet to be made would actually fit on their mini-platforms....


Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 17, 2009, 10:51:30 AM

Creating the Central Platform (continued)

As I mentioned before, I decided to use Horned Legion models to make my Totem crew and Warriors.  I'll go through more details later, but for now I'll just touch on initially fitting the Totem Warriors to their platforms. 

The Totem Warriors were made from one of the poses of regular Legion swordsmen...the only ones with decor (horn) on their shoulders.  I thought that would make them stand out.  I shaved the excess metal off the bottom of the model, then drilled a hole where they would slip onto the pin.  I cut off the sword at this point as well, as these models would eventually need axes. I also needed to bend their shield arms forward somewhat to better fit the eventual space they would occupy on the Totem.

Totem warriors emerge from surgery ready to climb aboard the Totem
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030220.jpg)

Checking for fit on the platform structure
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030221.jpg)

Now with that settled, I can go ahead and glue the platform structure to the totem itself.  First I decided to give it a partial spray of black primer.  I was afraid that simply gluing the platform on would result in some bare metal trapped somewhere that I could see, but couldn't get a brush to.  So to be safe I gave it a quick partial spray.  I'l l do a full priming later after constuction is complete.

After the partial prime, it was just a matter of slopping on some glue, placing the platform, and letting it dry.

The beast accepts its newly constructed burden...
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030218.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030219.jpg)


All that remained (not pictured above) was to drill down through the middle of the platform, through the plastic, and into the metal to make a hole to glue the pin for the crossbow operator.

So, now with the critical platform structure complete and attached, it is time to turn our attention to the remainer of the Totem's "outfit"...
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 17, 2009, 12:51:40 PM

Rounding out the Totem's "outfit"

At this point the Totem still needed some additional "decor", and of course a means to mount the giant crossbow.  I dipped into my bag of tricks once again (the pile of mirror/picture hanging parts) and came out with some metal pieces that were similar to what I used for the mini-platforms.  These didnt have large "tabs" at the end, just some slight curve.  Plus, the middle section was actually cut out.

It's much easier to show a picture of these than try to describe them
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030190.jpg)

This is probably the point in the project where the miniature gods were smiling down upon me the most as these metal "clips" fit absolutely perfectly on the Totem.  The ridges in the Totems back fit nice and snug into the holes, actually protruding slightly above the metal pieces.  Also, the length of two of these perfectly bridged the area from the central platform to the back of the Totem's head.  The gap between the two clips was at the top of the Totem's shoulder "hump" and would be a perfect point to build a harness for the crossbow.

Our Totem has acquired a bit more armor (note pin for crossbow operator is now installed)
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030229.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030231.jpg)

Now, all along while I was planning and building, I wanted the stuff I put on the Totem to look like it could actually be wearing it without it falling off.  So another good thing about this entire combination of platform/armor/crossbow area is that I felt with strategically placed chains, it actually would look like the Totem could wear it into battle.  So I took some craft miniature chain that I bought at the local Michael's store, and placed two strands on the Totem.  One that went from the front most metal piece by his head and wrapped around under his neck, and a second that attached to the undersides of the central platform and went under his belly.  I think it turned out well and gave a little more believability to the model.

Cheap metal craft mini-chain found at Michaels
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030232.jpg)

One of the two chains holding on the Totem's "outfit" (you can see the other chain in the pictures in the first post)
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030234.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030235.jpg)

With all that completed, I moved on to what was probably the most frustrating part of the process, the crossbow itself...
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 22, 2009, 08:20:44 AM
I don't know if anyone is watching this thread closely enough to notice, but I've been lacking in adding new material.  We put our house on the market on Tuesday and its been crazy juggling showings, kids, work, and offer negotiations.  got a verbal agreement in place last night, so I am back in business!

Constructing the Crossbow

Well, the first step in constructing a War Totem mounted Crossbow is this: find a crossbow.  I spent a lot of time browsing my miniatures, looking in hobby stores, peeking online, to try and find a crossbow that looked good and was the right size.  Then wouldn't you know it I found one right under my nose.  I had a box of LOTR miniatures that I didnt even think to look through.  In that box I had a blister of "Uruk-Hai with Crossbows" (model # D 05-62) that had a crossbow that fit the bill nicely.

Crossbow from Uruk-Hai blister
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030193.jpg)

To mount the crossbow on the Totem, I dug through my workshop again, and came across something in my bin of "miscellaneous small electrical wiring doo-dads" that my Dad had given to me years ago.  I'm not sure what to call this thing, but it is a short stubby cylider that ends in a ring.  I'm sure its used for crimping and connecting wire.  My thought was I could cut down the cylinder part, strip off the red plastic, and it could sit in the gap between the metal plates on the top of the totem.  Then I would mount the crossbow inside the ring.  I thought that would be fairly realistic as could imagine the ring rotating the crossbow horizontally, and the crossbow itself perhaps could tip up and down, allowing the operator to have full range of movement.

The "ring mount", before and after modification
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030244.jpg)

So, gluing the ring mount to the Totem was easy enough.  However, it proved difficult gluing the crossbow to the inside of the ring.  I just didnt have enough surface area to attach it well.  So I had to resort to a crude method of adding more surface area.  I just glued two small pieces of paper clip to either side of the crossbow.  That gave me enough surface area to attach the crossbow to the ring.  That ended up working well enough and doesn't stand out too much.

Creating more surface area for gluing the crossbow
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030245.jpg)

Gluing the crossbow to the ring required some careful support
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030247.jpg)

The crossbow operator intently oversees the construction of his weapon
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030248.jpg)

A couple more steps to add some flavor and realism.  Again, looking through my electrical doo-dads, I came across another connector that I thought would be useful.  This one ended in two mini-cylinders.  I thought if I mounted those on the top of the crossbow, that they would represent the chambers of the two arrows that it can shoot every round.  It was a simple matter of snipping those off, and gluing it to the top.  Then I took some common small nails, cut off the ends, and attached them to the operator end of the crossbow.  They would represent handles the operator would use to manuever the crossbow.  The intent was that if the crossbow had handles, it would give the impression of larger size and more weight.

Another electrical "doo-dad" would serve as chambers for the arrows
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030246.jpg)

Almost ready to fire!
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030253.jpg)

Nails getting trimmed to use as crossbow handles
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030257.jpg)

Handles in place, fire when ready!
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030320.jpg)

Oops, a little crooked, but I can live with it (cant tell from most angles)
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030321.jpg)

Ok, so now we have a weapon, but wait a minute...there's some things in those pictures that haven't been discussed yet.  Let's backtrack just a bit...




Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Alxbates on June 23, 2009, 05:28:54 AM
Excellent tutorial - just excellent.  Thanks for posting it - I look forward to further updates.

-Alex
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: luckyone on June 23, 2009, 06:43:04 PM
This is awesome stuff. Ingenious conversion.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Von Koss on June 26, 2009, 10:04:29 AM
Absolutely Fantastic!  I have been meaning to post on this topic for a while now, it's just so good and definately matches the pics in the rulebook.  I'm making moves now to replicate this model by the end of the summer- In my opinion it's so good I have no other choice but to copy it.  Many thanks Daargrim for posting the tutorial it's very in-depth and easy to follow.  The painting is great and I would be very proud to deploy that model on my game table. Bravo, my good man!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 26, 2009, 11:47:45 AM
Absolutely Fantastic!  I have been meaning to post on this topic for a while now, it's just so good and definately matches the pics in the rulebook.  I'm making moves now to replicate this model by the end of the summer- In my opinion it's so good I have no other choice but to copy it.  Many thanks Daargrim for posting the tutorial it's very in-depth and easy to follow.  The painting is great and I would be very proud to deploy that model on my game table. Bravo, my good man!

Thanks!  Hopefully I'll be able to update this more tonight.  By the way, I love your "Project Log" thread where you are updating what you are working on.  I like the idea of the black stygian and I am going to copy that whenever I get around to mine!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 26, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Some Final Touches for the Totem

Careful observers may have noted something glued to the neck area of the totem...attached to the front-most metal armor piece.  Well, that is a horned ones symbol taken from the standard of the legion warriors box. 

After I attached the symbol, I still felt the various metal pieces needed some dressing up.  They looked too plain and too much like "metal pieces from a mirror hanging kit".  Part of that is just my natural perspective, having been the person who put this together.  So I looked around at the local Michael's store looking for some small beads that could be used as rivets.  I landed on some self-adhesive plastic "gemstones" which I glued on.  I put 4 on each of the two metal plates on the top of the totem, and 2 on each of the Totem Warrior's platforms.

I disassembled the standard in order to use the Horned Ones symbol
(I will use one of the smaller sections later for the handle of the crossbow operator's sword)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030226.jpg)

The Horned Ones symbol needed the back filed down to make it flat
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030250.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030252.jpg)

Beads used as rivets
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030330.jpg)



Next, our Totem needed a base.   I picked up some stuff called "Plastruct" from the local hobby store.  Basically just plastic sheets of appropriate thickness.  after some careful work with the Dremel, and some more gluing, the Totem was basically constructed!

Cutting a piece to size to make the base
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030322.jpg)

Rounded off the corners to look a little nicer
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030328.jpg)

Totem updated with Horned Ones symbol, "rivets", and a base
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030336.jpg)

I prefer to detail the base prior to priming, so the final step would be to add ground effects, leaving some open spaces for flock or grass.

Ground detail added to base
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030340.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030342.jpg)

The Totem is primed and ready for paint!!!
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030347.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030344.jpg)


Now all the remained was to finish converting the 4 Dwarves...
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: dave kufner on June 26, 2009, 04:55:59 PM
I like how everything comes together on conversions when the primer is added.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: luckyone on June 26, 2009, 07:38:02 PM
Quote from: dave kufner link=topic=5843.msg45601#msg45601 date=
I like how everything comes together on conversions when the primer is added.

You are so correct. Having that first prime coat after a long and awesome conversion is such a great feeling.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Alxbates on June 26, 2009, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: dave kufner link=topic=5843.msg45601#msg45601 date=
I like how everything comes together on conversions when the primer is added.

You are so correct. Having that first prime coat after a long and awesome conversion is such a great feeling.

Oh, heck yeah.  I'll echo my earlier comments, the figure looks fantastic.  You've written an excellent conversion guide.

-Alex
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 27, 2009, 12:04:22 PM
Thanks again to all for the great complements.  Just glad others are enjoying checking out my little project.

Let's finish off the construction:

The Four HorseTotemMenDwarves

For the crossbow operator, and his fellow crew member, I used the same pose of Legion Warrior.  For the crossbowman, I used the Dremel to shave metal off the bottom of the figure to make him stand "flat".  Drilling a hole would allow him to be placed on the pin.  I also needed to remove the sword from his hand as I wanted his hands free to use the crossbow.  This involved just breaking off the two parts...the blade above the hand, and the handle protruding form below.  I re-used the blade to put the sword on his back.  I used a section of the previously-broke-apart standard to add a handle back onto the sword.  Finally, I had to bend the arms forward a bit.  That accomplished two things.  One, it made him look more like he was operating the crossbow.  Two, it prevented them from interfering with the mounted Totem Warriors..


Original Legion Warrior used for Crossbowman and other crewmember
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030223.jpg)

Sword removed, based "flattened", and arms bent into position
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030224.jpg)

The original sword, plus a small bit from the dissembled standard
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030227.jpg)

Carefully repairing the fellow's weapon
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030337.jpg)


The other crewmember only required one conversion step: "hollowing out" the area between his legs (what a brave little dwarf!) with the Dremel in order to allow him to straddle the back of the Totem.  No need here to change anything with the weapon.  I tossed around a few ideas for how to mount this fellow, mostly centered around the idea of building him a sort of saddle to sit on.  But in the end, I just went bareback.  It was a combination of not being able to come up with anything better, and the fact that I was close to finishing the project and picked the quickest option!

Crewmember with his "Dwarfhood" still intact (barely)
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030243.jpg)


The creation of the Totem Warriors was more involved.  As mentioned previously, I used Legion Warriors for them as well, but a different pose than the crossbow operator and the other crewmen.  I used the pose that was facing forward a bit more, and had the horn on the shoulder.  Like the crossbowmen, I flattened the bottom of the figures.  The shield arms needed to be bent forward a bit...again to avoid crowding the other dwarves while riding the totem.  But the trickiest part was replacing the swords with axes.  Again, scouring the many boxes of miniatures I had laying around, I settled on some axes from a Reaper Warlord Reven blister pack (#14293).  I carefully drilled small holes in the top of the Totem Warrior's sword hands.  Then even more carefully I shortened the axe handles to an appropriate length, and shaved down the ends so they could fit in the holes I drilled.  Some careful gluing later resulted in 2 converted Totem Warriors.

Totem Warriors after flattening base, removing swords, and drilling holes in hands for axes
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030220.jpg)

Top down view of Totem Warrior ready for new weapon
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030213.jpg)

A "before and after" view of getting the axes ready for battle
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030214.jpg)

I guess I don't have a picture of the Totem Warriors fully constructed, prior to painting, so you'll have to go back to the first post to see them glued together!

Gotta run, but still to come is building the bases for the Dwarves, and some pictures of the painting in progress.
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 29, 2009, 03:50:57 AM
Basing the Dwarves

Creating bases for the dwarves was fairly straightforward.  I used the provided bases, drilled holes at appropriate spots depending on where I had drilled the hole in the bottom of the dwarf, and glued in place a paperclip or nail (depending on what thickness I needed).  I used some Green Stuff to fill in the slot on the base where the miniature would normally be mounted.  Then added some ground effects (making sure to avoid where the dwarf miniature would contact the base), added some primer and they were done!

Crossbow operator approves of his newly-pinned base
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030708.jpg)

Bases pinned and filled with Green Stuff
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030713.jpg)

Ground effects added
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030717.jpg)

Primed and ready for paint!
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030737.jpg)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 29, 2009, 04:07:12 AM
Painting - Totem Crew

I don't have too much interesting to say regarding the painting of the model.  My techniques are fairly straghtforward...mostly drybrushing and highlighting.  But I have pictures of the painting in progress that I thought I would share just to make this story complete:

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030616.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030620.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030628.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030629.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030630.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030647.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030675.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030682.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030695.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030696.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030697.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030698.jpg)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 29, 2009, 04:10:19 AM
Painting - Totem Warriors

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030615.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030618.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030625.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030626.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030627.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030631.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030632.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030645.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030667.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030669.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030699.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030700.jpg)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 29, 2009, 04:13:43 AM
Painting - the Totem

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030348.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030356.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030357.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030358.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030360.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030365.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030366.jpg)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 29, 2009, 04:18:34 AM
Bases

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030759.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030761.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030762.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030763.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030765.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030767.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030780.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030782.jpg)

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030809.jpg)


Ready for a layer of Dullcoat!!!
(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030775.jpg)

Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Daargrim on June 29, 2009, 04:30:27 AM
The End of All Things

Well, that's it folks.  I hope this was entertaining/helpful/inspiring/interesting on some level for others.  I've used this model twice in battle at this point, and it is fun to play.  Its nice having a very mobile, high-wounds, ranged weapon with 2 shots per action.

I'll be adding some pictures to the "Army Gallery" threads of my other chronopia minis when I get a chance.

Which way to the Battle?

(http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu309/harv0033/P1030804.jpg)
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: luckyone on June 29, 2009, 05:08:31 AM
Very very nice. Thanks for the very detailed posting!

Looks awesome!
Title: Re: Creating a Dwarf War Totem (Torkha)
Post by: Alxbates on June 29, 2009, 08:50:30 AM
Beautiful.  An excellent tutorial!  One of the things I like best is that you used fairly simple techniques, tools, and components - and then you explained yourself clearly, too.

This would be well worth reposting to other boards on the web - the Lead Adventure forum, and Reaper's forums (since the beast is a Reaper miniature) come to mind.

Thank you very much for your hard work on the model and the tutorial!

-Alex in Alaska