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Talaminiatures => General Discussions => Topic started by: Veez on September 15, 2008, 10:45:42 AM
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The intent of this discussion is to cover the miniatures we would all like to see; not just Warzone and Chronopia but in general. Similar threads like this exist on other forms but this one is special; this one is ours.
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Figures I would like to see.
Modern/Near Future Civilians. People walking to work, businessmen with briefcases rather than guns, women who aren't busty looking prostitues wannabes, etc.
Pilots. Helicopter pilots, jet pilots, in the ****pit, outside the ****pit, running for their lives.
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Sharks with frickin lasers!
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Sharks with frickin lasers!
Thank you, Dr. Evil. Applause for you.
I'd like to see more heroic pulp heroes and heroines, cops, common thugs and master villains (and their bowler-wielding bodygurads) that don't cost a frakkin' arm and a leg. Oh yeah, I'd also like the Burger King.
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dead guys, soldiers, civilians.. both fantasy and sci-fi.
also, a field of dead bodies, like a terrain-effect (i got a dead dragon flat on the ground, e.g.)
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I'm a very big cyberpunk-genre fan, but the only minis that were really ever made were the Shadowrun figs, which were meh...
I'd also like to see some generic sci-fi minis; techs, scientists, soldiers, things like that...
along those same lines, I'd like to see some of the same things in casualty minis...
B...
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Yeah, let me echo Sylvas' thought-there are a lot of crap 25mm figures out there that "fit the bill" for what I'm looking for. Stuff that looks like Grenadier rejects from back in the day (I mean early-mid 80's figs). This stuff does not count-I want decent looking figs that would compare well to 40k, Hasslefree, Warzone stuff-whatever high quality figure you want to relate, not globby handed large headed figs that you look at and consider if it was sculpted from a fishing weight.
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Cyberpunk sounds cool. Lots of modern figs are coming out that can fill that bill. The Sabotage range was going that way, and somebody picked up the range, so you should find something along those lines.
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actually, there are also RīTalsorian CP figs.
but just as big-headed crap as veez said..
only good of them are the bozo-clown-gangers-- and even they are tiny non-posing things..
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well, I really liked the concept behind the Shockforce minis, but the minis for that game were not that great...I ended up using GW Escher gangers instead of some of the things that were put out...
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Me?
Modern/Scifi:
Good SMG-toting troops.... possibly without Gas Masks.
Shotgun-troops (Darkslayers anyone)
Good Generic Militia- Uniforms with perhaps less up to date weapons and such. I am intrigued by the plethora of WW2 minis out there as I am very tempted to do up UWZ stats for their use. (Yeah, I am a weirdo)
Fantasy:
Prorperly Proportioned Chicks with Swords with more than Chain Mail Bikinis.
A little more normal swordsmen...
Proper Horses...
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IMHO the level of detail with plastic minis has come along way in the past several years. I remember using the same 2 (or one in some cases) poses of figs for several armies I played with (original capital troopers, original suarus,skinks etc). I am refering to grunt/basic troopers not command specialists.
Looking at the newest releases of plastic figs and the variations one can achieve by swaping out arms/legs/weapons/heads accessaries etc I feel that my miniatures wish list would be for a re-release of many of these one pose/two pose figures. I like pewter/metal figs better because of the weight/feel of them. I am moving over to plastic recently due to several recent releases and botched conversion attempts (with pewter). Using plastic etc is much more economical from what I understand. Now getting someone to mold/create the figures, make a cast of them and produce them is another issue altogether.
Maybe going forward this can be done - why not utilize a basic trooper with several acc sprues to convert to a specific corporation? Acc sprues would have shoulder pads (of course) weapons/arms, insignia, specific helmet/head combos. You could use a basic mold for 6x2 trooper (12 total) and add in 2 acc sprues for each corporation. Command and specialist options could also be on the acc sprues.
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Maybe going forward this can be done - why not utilize a basic trooper with several acc sprues to convert to a specific corporation? Acc sprues would have shoulder pads (of course) weapons/arms, insignia, specific helmet/head combos. You could use a basic mold for 6x2 trooper (12 total) and add in 2 acc sprues for each corporation. Command and specialist options could also be on the acc sprues.
Interesting idea.... and there are Cad programs to do that. Its partially what GW is using for all of their stuff in plastic now... and some of the molds for the metal figs.
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Having worked in a jewelers manufacturing complex years back that actually tried to produce figures I know just how miserable such things can be to make and mold and fit and gate and clean and produce properly. BITCH doesn't cover the process. ((I'm a girl so I can say that with full honors))
Plastic extrusion process in far easier because of temperature controls and pressure from machines are far far more consistant. Extruding wire and extruding plastic are two very different processes.
Now that being said...
Things I'd love to see are the things that make a battlefield "real" Everything from Pigeons in the park to the occasional carrion feeder for the aftermath. Hell, I just had a vulture vulting on my rooftop the other day due to a dead squirrel in the road outside my house. Seeing a fan of wings from such a large creature outside my second story window brought me over really fast and looking up I said...No Vulting on my Roof...he left.
That said. The occasional animals from various places could make for some interesting scenes and...even some additional encounters in some games. I don't even know if they have rules for such things. Just sounds like a way to really spice things up.
Besides I'm an animal lover. ;)
The other things I'd like to see include the normals like so many have mentioned. FD PD Hosp EMS could all be interesting or cool for any campaign workings. They'd have to be limited runs or...you could turn them into battle forces when they get ****ed about the war going on around their jobs. LOL I know a few Fire Fighters like that.
So ya digging it?
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Totally Gun Moll! Normal people walking down the street when all hell breaks loose-it would be good for
Zombie Games
Urban War of any kind
Refugees to be defended
Hostage Rescue missions (Hasslefree had a good set but I wan't people who aren't trussed up)
Modern Combat
The list is as endless as your imagnination
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for those of you with access to 3d design software (cad, etc..) there IS an option.. http://www.akibanana.com/?q=node/959
its a 3d printer! you provide the design, they provide the mini. it can create a 10.5" high figure for about $90 (not sure what the exact conversion rate is, but that should be close). but! nothing says you couldnt create a "sprue" of minis, attachments, etc, and have them "printed" as one piece! can even be "pre-painted" at the same time! there are a few examples on the web site of what people have made. print resolution is VERY high!
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Plastics!! Never!!
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Plastics!! Never!!
I guess I'm not as picky as you. If I could draw a decent 3D mini or sprue of minis, I'd do it! The things that can be done with plastics today is amazing. The new WH40K (I know, I know, I blasphemed...20 lashes with a wet noodle for me) starter set's figs look outstanding and not nearly as static as their Macragge ancestors.
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yeah... sad but true.. pewter IS the favorate due to feel,
but i see the advatages of plastic... once i build 15 empire freelancers (?) (2-W support troops) in many poses/weapons, and that was long before the recent sprues.
also, if you drop plastic, much, _much_ better outcome..
hell, if even cars are plastic, why shun away?
(...i sense a market for thick lead-bases ;D ::))
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I'd argue that the Warzone got its start in plastics-how many of us old-timers supplemented our armies with figures from SoTC and FoTC and such?
What someone who had money and time (i.e. none of us) could do is create a generic body form with torsos, legs arms, heads, kit and weapons that could be swapped out. Various sprues could resemble the corporations but not necessarily be the corporations (those imperial WWI helmets are not copywritten anywhere-neither are berets, german style helmet or cyborg heads) that can be swapped out. It could quietly attract 40k players as ways to create your own IG units and personalize them.
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Great idea but design wise not as easy as it sounds unless you want fiures to look like the old style wooden soldiers or the plastic green army men.
Form fit and function would deteriorate quickly with a limited run on the molds and the existing fits would not after X number of castings or mold runs if you prefer.
IN other words while you cold do it for yourself and a few buddies major manufacture would require even identical molds to be segregated to insude fit. QC QA on them would be nasty and you would be making multiple fixtures for the product.
Investment would exceed profit 9 out of 10 times.
Thats not to say....Hand crafting is not an option. Heads and such are foiund in various places but set static figures not so easy.
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for those of you with access to 3d design software (cad, etc..) there IS an option.. http://www.akibanana.com/?q=node/959
its a 3d printer! you provide the design, they provide the mini. it can create a 10.5" high figure for about $90 (not sure what the exact conversion rate is, but that should be close). but! nothing says you couldnt create a "sprue" of minis, attachments, etc, and have them "printed" as one piece! can even be "pre-painted" at the same time! there are a few examples on the web site of what people have made. print resolution is VERY high!
Do they have some kind of service where you can order anything yet? The webpage was rather hard to navigate IMO..
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No idea.. there are probably companys here in the states that have the same service, that one is somewhere in japan, and, if i recall, using american printers.