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Warzone => Game Questions => Topic started by: darkbaxter on November 22, 2005, 05:19:03 PM
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I miss any rule about RAMING - was there any FAQ about it?
I would use it like in 2nd edition with a small change in AR (actually substracting 10).
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No ramming - yet. It is not in the book, and all discussions concerning it have been that EE will be deealing with that in a supplement.
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Will the ramming rules include running down soldiers? and iff so, would the vehicle have to stop after hitting the first guy? I just like the idea of a souped up Hummer with spikes on the bumper running down squads of grunts. :p
"Hey you Mishima mofos, BEEP BEEP *thud splat*
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yeah was wondering about this also.
he he he ....mishima mofos..he he he.......
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I think the chance of being run over by a truck/APC is a good reason to put your guys on Wait. I guess a "dive for cover" would get you out of the way...
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I think the rule in 2nd edition wasn't bad... I really miss it... to run over a squad of zombies would be fun even for sobersided Brotherhood, hower the Death Angel would have needed some "minor" chnages (size 8, AR 25...)
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It's very Halo.
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Don't do ramming, guys, please... it is (as opposed to what some people might think) very unrealistic.
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True, it is unrealistic, but is is fun. :)
(As houserules go, at least)
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Don't do ramming, guys, please... it is (as opposed to what some people might think) very unrealistic.
I kind of agree with you here...2 vehicles ramming each other, no matter what movies or other systems say, are both piles of junk in real life afterward...and a vehicle trying to ram into foot troops, all the troops have to do is move out of the way...most systems handle this with a leadership check and you simply move them out of the way...
Even the Hedgehog Necromower, the only vehicle in the game that seems to be made for just this option, the rules say that the attack is actually from the Wolfbane on board attacking with his sword...
in short...let's just ignore this please...
B.
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True, it is unrealistic, but is is fun. :)
Turning your game into chariot races is fun only for the first time. Then it becomes boring...
BTW - try to run over enemy soldier while driving an armored vehicle, buttoned up under fire in rough terrain. Unless he's disabled and has IQ lower than a bacteria you're not going to succeed. OTOH - you're very likely to die. No sane vehicle driver would try such a thing, as unlike the player he does not KNOW that there are no AT weapons in the enemy squad he tries to drive into.
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True, it is unrealistic, but is is fun. :)
Turning your game into chariot races is fun only for the first time. Then it becomes boring...
BTW - try to run over enemy soldier while driving an armored vehicle, buttoned up under fire in rough terrain. Unless he's disabled and has IQ lower than a bacteria you're not going to succeed. OTOH - you're very likely to die. No sane vehicle driver would try such a thing, as unlike the player he does not KNOW that there are no AT weapons in the enemy squad he tries to drive into.
You guys are right, but it wasa fun idea while it lasted. :)
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There are certain players who have learned to keep their vehicles FAR AWAY from my Mishima Shgunate's forces. Can you say AV2 radiant polearms? Thought you could....
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Radinat CC weapons with reach in the jungle SUCK! ;)
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Dave as a house rule I allow vehicles to run down troops. I have the models make a leadership test to move out of the way or if they fail they are hit with a Dam 10 wound and need to make a armor save. As far as vehicle ramming vehicle I do both take an auto wound and both make a roll on the vehicle system failure chart.
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In second edition I would Ram people with the Purple shark (lining it up to get as many hit-n-runs as possible) and models that survived the impact I'd have the Grenadier lob a grenade at from point blank for an auto hit. The postal service delivery worked everytime but once. That time not only did a Venusian Ranger not take a wound but the Grenadiers grenade template over lapped the Shark. The V.Ranger saved that roll too while the grenade blew the Grenadier right off the back.
yea, we really don't need ramming, it's a bit silly.
-PFC joe
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so at the moment you can't run through enemy visible troops?
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well you sure can't make a Ram attack. You can however engage them in CC then promptly break for free from CC for the next action.
-PFC joe
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if I break from CC can I run away through the enemy?
I'm thinking at 5 enemy models lined up at a choke spot: the only way to go through is to kill them first or can I go through them somehow with the vehicle?
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You're not allowed to move between enemy models or an emeny model and a piece of terrain, unless you have a clearance of at least 5 inches. So when you break from CC you need to move away from the enemy. Although, you are able to declare another charge off of the break away.
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You're not allowed to move between enemy models or an emeny model and a piece of terrain, unless you have a clearance of at least 5 inches. So when you break from CC you need to move away from the enemy. Although, you are able to declare another charge off of the break away.
Just to clarify this: the charge must be to a model that you were NOT in CC with at the start of the action. IE, if in CC with model "A", i can break away and charge model "B", but not back up 1" and then charge model "A" again in the same action. However: I can break away from "A" to charge "B" in action 1, and then in action 2, break away from "B" to charge "A" again (different action).
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Just to clarify this: the charge must be to a model that you were NOT in CC with at the start of the action. IE, if in CC with model "A", i can break away and charge model "B", but not back up 1" and then charge model "A" again in the same action. However: I can break away from "A" to charge "B" in action 1, and then in action 2, break away from "B" to charge "A" again (different action).
This is my understanding of the rule. I was told from a reliable source that this came straight from TT himself and as such, this is how it was ruled at the national tourney at Origins this past year.
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As convoluted as that description is, it is correct.
-PFC joe
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really, please, I beg you....
no more vehicle ramming...
no more, no more, no more...
B.
pretty please?...
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I would think that the fiscaly minded corporations would teach their vehicle drivers NOT to run into stuff. Afterall, it's cheaper to train another driver and hoze out a vehicle than replace that vehicle.
SERGE
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Plus there is the rise in insurance, the body work, man hours lost due to injury. Frankly it's a wonder the corproations go to war at all.
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Plus there is the rise in insurance, the body work, man hours lost due to injury. Frankly it's a wonder the corproations go to war at all.
they can write it off on their tax returns...
occupational expenses....$20 Billion for incapacitated and expired associates...
B.
oh wait, they write the tax codes...