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Warzone => Game Questions => Topic started by: Dragon62 on November 16, 2005, 03:18:44 PM
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Under Demo charges C9 and Detcord both state Remote Detonator required does this allow anyone with demo training the right to purchase the remote detonator?
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as far as I know only the Capitol Airborne infantry Demo Spec has a Remote Detonator.
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Yes i know they're the only squad that has the remote detonator but the question still remains if anyone with demo training can use c-9 and detcord should they also be allowed to have the remote detonator?
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Unless FAQ'd otherwise, you may not purchase a Remote Detonator. This only precludes the use of Detcord as the C9 charges only require a Detonator if you want to fire them remotely.
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Unless FAQ'd otherwise, you may not purchase a Remote Detonator. This only precludes the use of Detcord as the C9 charges only require a Detonator if you want to fire them remotely.
well, wouldn't that give a really unfair advantage to that unit?...
I do not have my rulebook in front of me (I think that it is in the car), but is there a points cost listed for a Remote Detonator?...If there is not, why would that line be added to the description for Detcord?
B.
I's soo confused.
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The point Cost listed for the Detonator in the equipment area was, like all the pC's in the equipment section, left on by accident and wasn't meant to go to printing.
As such, only one unit can use Detcord but if you want to use it for anything other than obstacle clearing, you're insane. As far as Obstacle clearing goes, either C9 or Detcord work equally well for the cost. So really, it's more or less a non-issue as future units will recieve remote detonators and current units will (almost) never use C9 as an offensive weapon.
-PFC joe
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Instead of saying new units will have the remote detonator and the old units wont use it, would'nt it be easier to just let anyone with demo training purchase the detonator. I dont see where this would be game unbalancing.
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it's not really unbalancing as it is now. It's not even that useful of an item to have. As it is, it's just something to set everyone apart.
-PFC joe
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The Faceless have remote detonators... unfortunatly, they really can't put their explosives down. :p
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As such, only one unit can use Detcord but if you want to use it for anything other than obstacle clearing, you're insane. As far as Obstacle clearing goes, either C9 or Detcord work equally well for the cost. So really, it's more or less a non-issue as future units will recieve remote detonators and current units will (almost) never use C9 as an offensive weapon.
It would be nice if I could arm a specialist model, such as the Golden Lion Demo Specialist, with this item, just to keep my full options open.
B.
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The Faceless have remote detonators... unfortunatly, they really can't put their explosives down. :p
*snicker* It's funny because it's a gross abuse of human rights!
Perhaps if they had remote detonators for _each_other's_ explosives....
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The Faceless have remote detonators... unfortunatly, they really can't put their explosives down. :p
*snicker* It's funny because it's a gross abuse of human rights!
Perhaps if they had remote detonators for _each_other's_ explosives....
I bet April Fools Day would be a blast...
What!?!
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The other reason they can't put them down is they may get mixed up-think of the embarrasment of running into an enemy formation and pressing the trigger only to blow your buddy up fifty feet back.
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I wonder what the Hallmark card for that would say....
I noticed that I accidently exploded you before you could regain your lost honor...
-open card-
...but you shoulda seen the look on your face
(and sorry about the loss of face)
-PFC joe
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hehe
I want to see the picture on the front of that.
A little Anime faceless carrying a little placard with "I'm Sorry" on it.
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I'd hate to see how much Gomenasai* money that would cost you.
I bet they make one with Hello Kitty on it.
*Traditional money paid against someone you have wronged such as cause injury or damage to their property-it is important to note that it is paid regarldess and completely separate of what a civil court might fine you for.
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And they say the Mishimese have no sense of humour.
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I bet they make one with Hello Kitty on it.
or, I-Refuse-To-Acknowlege-Your-Existance Kitty (instead of saying "Hello"..)
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Can my Demolition Specialist place a C-9 on a Vulkan Battlesuit (or a Mishima Meka)?
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I'd like to see a demo spec. that could get close enough to try.
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I'd like to see a demo spec. that could get close enough to try.
Blitzers. Blitzers are all about Hand to Tank combat, now why one would want to blow up a vulkan is an whole 'nother can of worms.
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There will be no further talk of blowing up Vulkans. This thread will self-destruct in 3...2...1...
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Hey Blitzers blowing up Vulkans would be funny in my book. Sorry Dave :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I would say that anything that has an AV rating can deffinatly attack something with Impenatrability.
(and we've played it that way too with a couple Orcas running silly from a mad pack of Blitzers.)
-PFC joe
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Why else would there be AV CC weapons. Isn't the Necrotech claw AV. So Joe no mark V with those Orcas? At least I think its the V the one with the flamer. It would make short work of Blitzers.
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>sob< they paradeployed behind the FT =(
-PFC joe
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Blitzers...
1 action my Blitzer move close the Vulkan
1 action (i.e.) the Blitzer places the Demo charge on the Vulkan
and...?
A)The charge explodes immediatly and the Vulkan roll the armor test. The Blitzer is observing the explosion very close the flames.
B) The charge explodes immediatly and both the Vulkan and the Blitzer rolls the armor test.
C)If I have another action, I move the Blitzer so distant and then the charge explodes.
What's the right "happy end"?
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huh.
as the C9 has a timer in the description, I'd have to say C
Blitzers can't take Detcord.
the C20 has no blast template so you're ok there.
erm.. but yeah, what do the other FAQ guys say (i'm winging it on this one)
-PFC joe
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I'll try to find some time to look into it this week. My immediate instinct though is that there should be a way for the demo spec to be able to get clear of the blast.
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Hey THAT is a funny way to use Blitzers.....
Just run at that damn big Orca, stuff his electrosteered and massively armored "pants" ::) with enough nuke-power and blast it off.... :D
Best would be to use it in a charge action.....(hey itīs cheesy, but itīs a CC-attack, or isnīt it; I think thereīs no rule backing and since itīs a SA not really possible, but funny anyway.... ;D)
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It's not a CC attack. The demo charges require a certain amount of actions to place (ATP) and these are dedicated actions.
-PFC joe
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Reminds me of Origins last year, when someone placed a satchel charge on Karak the Keeper....
The fireworks were quite pretty...
:o
SP
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How did he place a satchel charge on Karak with ATP 3 he would have had to survive a CC attack from Karak?
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How did he place a satchel charge on Karak with ATP 3 he would have had to survive a CC attack from Karak?
20's suck.
:D
SP
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Hmm. If I recall correctly, weren't you in control of Karak, Southpaw, during the incident of which you speak?
And yes Lopis, that is exactly how Blitzers are supposed to be used. In hand to tank combat there can be only one logical outcome. A blown up tank and an adrenaline buzzed Blitzer! ;)
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Yep, I sure was. :D You recall correctly, as usual.
The dice gods have never frowned upon me so horridly as they did that game. I have since said 1000 Hail Mary's, and have buried the offending dice where they will never do anyone harm ever again.
Hmm. If I recall correctly, weren't you in control of Karak, Southpaw, during the incident of which you speak?
And yes Lopis, that is exactly how Blitzers are supposed to be used. In hand to tank combat there can be only one logical outcome. A blown up tank and an adrenaline buzzed Blitzer! ;)
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Unless FAQ'd otherwise, you may not purchase a Remote Detonator. This only precludes the use of Detcord as the C9 charges only require a Detonator if you want to fire them remotely.
Are you sure that C9 requires only a remote detonator when firing against personnel? Couldn't it be that remote detonator is always required, gives a 6" range, and when firing against personnel you get reduced damage?
Also, what is the detcord range?
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Yes they both require a remote detonator that is why I feel any model with demo training should be allowed to have 1 and Detcord is designed to be wrapped aroud or placed on not thrown per the rules.