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Title: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: chribu on December 06, 2006, 05:16:50 AM
When does an enemy model block LOS towards another enemy model behind it? This is important for snipers that can target any enemy model in a squad. How much of the model behind must be visible in order to target it? Is it possible to protect a Sgt. by keeping him behind a row of grunts?
Title: Re: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: PhillySniper on December 06, 2006, 05:29:39 PM
When does an enemy model block LOS towards another enemy model behind it? This is important for snipers that can target any enemy model in a squad. How much of the model behind must be visible in order to target it? Is it possible to protect a Sgt. by keeping him behind a row of grunts?

A sniper can not target any member of a squad.  You have to shoot the closest model. Tac sense only allows you to switch your target SQUAD. The same target priorities apply to the newly selected squad.

Yes it is possible to protect a Sgt by hiding him behind grunts.  A good example of this is an Attila squad with a Scorpion spec. If the Scorpion is behind the Attilas he cant be hit without killing the Attilas or them moving out of the way.
Title: Re: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: Stalker on December 06, 2006, 06:43:33 PM
@ Philly

A model with the sniper ability can target any model in LOS by spending two actions to aim.

@ chribu

This is one of those situations where there is no concrete rule.  Common sense should dictate along with curteous play by each side.  Otherwise, use the peacemaker.  I tend to use the same guidelines as determining if a model is out of LOS or merely in cover when behind an obsticle.  So, yes a model can be protected from a sniper by being in a second or subsequent row but it would have to be tucked in pretty well.  After all, it is a sniper's job to pick off these priority targets!
Title: Re: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: dmcgee1 on December 06, 2006, 06:52:32 PM
When does an enemy model block LOS towards another enemy model behind it? This is important for snipers that can target any enemy model in a squad. How much of the model behind must be visible in order to target it? Is it possible to protect a Sgt. by keeping him behind a row of grunts?

We play by the rule that if you can see any part of the model, it may be shot.  Of course, the rules state that you should not take the pose of the model into account.  Basically, imagine a cylinder that is 25mm wide by 28mm high.  This would represent the model.  If the model behind another is not completely hidden, then it may be shot.

Ex.:  Blue Sniper may shoot all green models.  Red model cannot be seen by Blue Sniper:
Title: Re: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: PhillySniper on December 06, 2006, 07:42:21 PM
@ Philly

A model with the sniper ability can target any model in LOS by spending two actions to aim.


You are correct. I forgot about that rule. Its been a while since I used a sniper. Thx
Title: Re: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: chribu on December 06, 2006, 08:45:01 PM
ok, thanks for your feedback!
Have a tourney sunday and heard that snipers might be sniping around
Title: Re: LOS to enemy models behind other enemy models.
Post by: PFC joe on December 06, 2006, 08:54:21 PM
Units in base to base contact block LOS unless there is a greater than two size differances or one inch in elevation (drawn to the standing chest).
 (standard bases that come with the units, no cheezing it up and gettin 40mm bases for all your Children of Ilian)

-PFC joe