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Spotting a unit or a model?
« on: May 02, 2006, 04:13:57 AM »
when spotting hidden units (such as a wolfbane commando unit, with Stealth ability), do I reveal the whole unit with a successful spot check or do I only reveal one model for each successful spot check?

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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006, 07:59:53 AM »
i bet its the whole unit. if you see one wolfbane ,you know theres a crapload more where that came from!at least in my situation!
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2006, 08:50:21 AM »
Yes you are correct you spot the whole unit either individual or squad.
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2006, 01:03:28 PM »
thought so. the game is very unit cohesive. those guys stay together or theyre toast!!
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006, 01:06:05 PM »
ok thanks. I hope to get feedback from the faq team too, just to be sure ;)

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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2006, 10:58:58 PM »
Remember that hidden units are marked by an unit card until they are revealed.  Therefore, you are actually spotting the card and not any individual model.  So, once the card is spotted then the models would be deployed according to the rules for placing units after revealing a card.

The tricky part of this is, only the unit (model) spotting and any squad that was "given orders to" by the spotting model can see the newly revealed models. (p 42   section 6.2.7 - Making a Spot Check - 2nd paragraph)
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2006, 03:36:33 PM »
When can the rest of the army "see" the newly revealed models? when they shoot/are shot at? or do they need to spot seperately regardess?

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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2006, 06:01:10 PM »
i guess i dont play by the rules. we delight in a good,fair game where you enjoy a good fraggin'regardless of who gets fragged! we usually just place our troops and roll for spotting. totally unorthodox but it moves quick and we have my friends 13 year old with us and were trying to get him into spotsmanship,fairness and winning not being the main reason we game. its about fun.if someone says i see you and your guys are behind a pile of rubble or thick vegetation, then we would question that persons honor and sportsmanship. its all about fairness after all, the rules work both ways.weve been playing wargames(my circle)for about 15 years and what seems unfair to you could benefit you next game!!!
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2006, 12:52:43 PM »
so if the other units need to spot too... once the unit is revealed, do the other units spot the whole unit or each model one at a time?
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2006, 09:12:04 PM »
My understanding is that they would spot the unit.  Why would the first spotting unit see the entire hidden unit, and then subsequent units need to spot every model?  Besides, that would make too much record keeping.
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2006, 04:47:23 AM »
i agree it seems reasonable
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2006, 07:57:15 AM »
Yes I am a member of the FAQ team or, at least what is left of the team.  Check out this thread and it accounts for all of us http://forum54.oli.us/index.php?topic=531.0 .
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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2006, 03:09:34 PM »
Ok thanks!
I just want to be sure I can say that all my infos come from the official FAQ team ;)

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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2006, 09:41:59 AM »
Hi!
Why?
I' haven't understood why I spot the entire squad.
Quickly Pag. 42 says: to spot a concealed model[...] If succesful[...] may act upon the formerly concealed model.
If I see an helmet behind a wall, I can say "Hey, guys! There's someone behind the wall! Fire to the black helmet behind the wall!"
I can't say "Hey, guys! There's someone behind the wall! Fire to the black helmet behind the wall, and the 2nd black helmet behind the rock, and the 3rd Black helmet behind the tree, and the..."

There is a children game but I don't know the english word...

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Re: Spotting a unit or a model?
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2006, 05:07:35 PM »
Well I hope to get more feedback from the faq team before saturday...
The only reference to spotting more than one model at a time is at the beginning, where it says "In order to act upon a Concealed model(s)