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Offline Buzzu

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2015, 08:50:46 AM »
A bunch of unpainted minis on a black table... are them worthy of a picture? :D

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2015, 02:31:25 PM »
OH BUZZU,

You make me sad, get to painting. besides all my stuff is not painted either but showing it makes me want to get it done.




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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2015, 10:16:01 AM »
Yeah but you're painting with beautifull skill. I'm a very basic painter, and since I don't keep my pieces in a showcase but in boxes where they're very tight (they're too much!) I think they would be ruined soon when painted.
Anyway... sooner o later (in another life maybe) I'll do it.

Coming back to the theme of the thread, does anybody played the goblins with the prices/ability suggestions we made?
I'm seriously considering to pass to this army, but only with the proper adjustements.

BTW, I played a mini warband of Sok berserkers (2+LD) in a match. More than this it's too expensive. Well... they did the work. I charged a tenebrous crawler and killed him in one single turn, than I run them to a sister of tiamat, and they let the monster with one wound only, just to be... killed in a single attack when it activated.
I really like their stats, but the price is nonsense. I agree with the ones who said that they fill the gap in the shadow tribe where the blaid maidens are in for the other two tribes, but they cost a lot more! I suggested two ways of fixing: let them the same price but give them two wounds, or low down the price. Maybe something little above 40. Express your opinion about it.

What about mounted warbands? Do you think their cost is correct? Who fields a complete mounted warband between you players?
 
Don't let the question fall. Let's get to something.

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2015, 06:44:32 PM »
I got Thom to go over the entire swamp goblin army list by the numbers.  It will be posted soon.  Buzzu, the headhunters are 23 points, with the leader at 30. 
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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2015, 12:26:29 PM »
No berserking so... What a shame  ;D

Well, I'm thrilling at the idea, and can't wait for!
Anyway, if the costs are reducing so much, I'm happy I have so many miniatures!  :)

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2015, 03:28:28 PM »
I'm going over the list tonight with a red pen for Thom.  There are some additional cavalry being introduced for the Swamp Goblins that I think you will like.

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2015, 04:33:57 PM »
Yay!!!

Something with the ants, I hope! I have 12 ant minis ready to use...  ;D

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2015, 03:30:11 AM »
Nothing new ? ???

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2015, 11:12:51 AM »
Okay.  Take notes.  I will post the experimental troops later.

Swamp Goblins points adjustments.

Spearmen: 10
Leader: 12

Heavy Spearmen: 19
Leader: 21

Webmasters: 24
Leader: 28

Headhunters: 23
Leader: 30

Mantis Guard: 31
Leader: 36

Mantis Champion: 75

Headhunter Champion: 54

Blowpipers: 30
Leader: 33

Drone Riders: 72
Leader: 75

Novice Shaman: 25  Remove Commanding Presence from the profile.

Sentinel: 111

Fiend: 131

Shaman on Drone: 99
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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2015, 11:15:53 AM »
Hey Josh,

Can you post this as a official adjustment and I will go on Army Builder and make the changes to the Army builder files. I have admin rights but I don't want to make an update until it is "official"

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2015, 11:41:31 AM »
These are almost official.   ;)
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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2015, 12:02:23 PM »
Nice ones. I undetstand some of, less others, but I'll surely test them like that. I can understand the idea that lowering down troops you pushed high some heroes. I'm inhappy only for the blowpipers, and, as I already told, I would have liked a more violent and  specific profile for the headhunters. But now, lowered down of 10 points each, they simply have to be played in another way. Not an Úlite, but tons of. Thank you!
I'll let you know how they work ;)

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2015, 12:57:47 PM »
Go for it!! 
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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2015, 03:29:01 PM »
Buzzu Writes:
"3) SoK Berserkers
They cost 52 points and are fragile as paper sheets. For one point more I can field viridian lords, and there's no comparison in power. The berserkers are really well fitted with their background and they have great abilities, but the price is nonsense. I suggest to let the price untouched but give them two wounds OR three actions. Otherwise low down the price to something closer to a blade maiden, considering they are the only alternative to those ones if playing the shadow tribe."

great suggestion! these models are unplayable with the current statistics.
please update this unit. thank you! :)

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Re: UNITS REVISION: The power of democracy!
« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2015, 01:36:59 PM »
I tried the goblins in a test. They seem to work good ;)
On January the 5 I will try them against other players, and I'll let you know.

As FCM says, now I'm only waiting for the berserkers to be fixed, and... I'll be a happy player!!! :D