New Warzone (merged thread)

[Oakwolf]

I like Laura's sculpt. I don't mind Laura being cheeky/sexy at all, MC illustrations of females almost always had something cheeky about them, even "vestals" were in a way.

Overall, the gender stereotypes were/are very strong in the setting, hence the exaggerated shoulder plates on armor too.

Human soldiers have a serious lot of muscle (that goes for both genders, but even more so for males), probably through a tad of genetic enhancements/implents and most women illustrations invariably had quite alot of "charms" so to say (another genetic alteration thing i would guess).  This fits the fluff as well, because companies providing enhancements thrive on getting people convinced that they need them...not unlike today, actually.

[brynolf]

In case you live under a rock... here are the first Machinator renders. So glad they ditched the sword & shield! The poses and heads might need some overlooking though.

[Durandal]

I quite like the heads.  The combination of skull and gorget/collar is really evocative.  Poses could use a tweak or two, I agree.  Mostly the landing guy.  Infinity has taught my mind that that pose is for air-drop troops, so unless the Machinators drop on to the field, it will confuse my lizard like hind-brain. 

[semai99]

I Like the poses right & left ones, but as they are multi-part you will be able to pose them as you like or convert easier than before.

As others have said I wonder if they are going to get para-deploy?

[micmellon]

Yes, maybe some minor changes of the poses couldl be necessary but over all I like them!

[Raga]

Is it only me? I think that there is something wrong in Laura's pose.
I can't imagine her to attack with spear while handling it like this.
In my opinion a much stronger attack would be performed if her wrists were reversed 180 degrees (thumbs toward the blade).

[Oakwolf]

Hey raga

True for typical thrusts, but you can make a very strong low-aimed stab with this hold, like greek hoplites would do (although they used it one handed), especially if you release the left hand grip and guide the spear down with the right. It uses your triceps instead of biceps, which is in many cases stronger, but much less flexible (especially with both hands).

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I sadly don't dig the new cybertronics, it seems. They feel more detailed than the previous minis, sure, but they strike me as too far from the original concepts. I miss the "clean" and ironically "friendly" look of the military assets of the corporation.

[Pollo]

I miss the "clean" and ironically "friendly" look of the military assets corporation.

+1

But I like that Everassur and new Machinators share some similarities in their armor design.

[Brother Jim]

That Machinator with the gatling needs to keep its fingers clear of the barrels.

Other than that I like them, and I will call them "Mark III's".

I just wish the new Cybertronic had the same or a similar style of guns as the older models.

[semai99]

That Machinator with the gatling needs to keep its fingers clear of the barrels.

Other than that I like them, and I will call them "Mark III's".

I just wish the new Cybertronic had the same or a similar style of guns as the older models.

I liked the older style guns as well as they are more sci-fi'ish than a lot that's out there they have some really nice shapes about them and have a unique look as well, we'll see how they progress over the next couple of weeks.

[Doompup]

It seems to me like Prodos has few motivation to realize
the original styles though they actually had appropriate skills.
Maybe they believe their variants gonna sell quite much better
simply because theyre completely new. That would though be
sad since the Mutant Chronicles kinda lives just through said
styles and not only the fiction. After all i saw i must seriously
doubt that the shown remixings can satisfy the minds of the
older players and also new interests will stay less.

I've been playing/collecting Warzone on and off since 1998 and I'm quite happy with the models so far (maybe I'm in a minority    )
I think that the models have been a good blend of the older style with the newer; and they've been willing to listen to fan feedback (such as for the Bauhaus shoulder pads).
The only figures that I've seen that looked like a bigger departure from the old are some of the Cybertronic figures, but I quite like the cyberpunk aesthetic, and think that style fits Cybertronic quite well, visually and fluff-wise.

[Grinder]

I for one love the new stretch goal. I was not keen on the weapon of the Razide, but in the new bitzbox we get the Nazgaroth!

[Durandal]

And all those people worrying about whether their Vulcans are legal in the new edition now have an answer to boot!

Depending on what the components look like I may pick up one for Bauhaus and one for Cyber for a bit of variety.

[micmellon]

Last evening something stuck my mind. I don’t know if anybody released it before and I was the only blind but if MC and especially WRZ gets big and I have no doubts about that there is a nice opportunity in the future for Prodos.
All models are CAD designed and rendered and they even change the poses by CAD and defined realistic joints etc. it will be a small step to make a PC game out of the existing work. I am no PC game specialist but for me it sounds like they have a great base to develop things like that.
It is just a day dream and idea in my mind and for now they should concentrate on the actual task to get WRZ big and beautiful with a lot of business success and fun for the fans but they could keep the idea in the back of their mind for later… 

I believe they are heading in the right direction to provide us a well-made version of WRZ and I don't see any dark clouds at the horizont.

[Raga]

Hey raga

True for typical thrusts, but you can make a very strong low-aimed stab with this hold, like greek hoplites would do (although they used it one handed), especially if you release the left hand grip and guide the spear down with the right. It uses your triceps instead of biceps, which is in many cases stronger, but much less flexible (especially with both hands).

I have browsed pictures of the hoplites. And I find what you said true only for a one-handed thrown attack and overshoulder low thrust - overshield attack in a tight formation.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zbl8qFWR7N8/T_GxYwbLBkI/AAAAAAAAAW0/CJm_wNogJ8c/s1600/hoplites.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zBodTfmlLHE/UJD92f5ZamI/AAAAAAAAHJg/y8JnJ3_m6Uo/s1600/hoplite+phalanx.jpg
But in this case Laura is not fighting in a formation and is not using the shield and is not using light one handed weapon that can only perform thrusting attacks. So her pose is weird for me.
I would prefer her handling her weapon like this (keep in mind that castigator could also make slashing attacks):
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/9562/chbisento.gif
http://katorivietnam.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/naginata.jpg