Curiously enough, I ended up overpainting my Obsidian Serpent Elves to the Jade House, and have my Swampies primed. I was 3 and 0 with my OS Elves, but the painting looked terrible. I used a Green Metallic from Reaper to go over the dark colors I flubbed with, and they're comin' along nicely. Good enough for a game, but not anywhere near pro. Cheers.