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Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« on: February 01, 2006, 01:00:25 PM »
Point costs, shooting rules, hidden deployment...
Did anything else change?

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2006, 01:10:45 PM »
I have all the 1st edition books for the art and fiction, but didn't begin playing until 2nd.  From a close reading, I am amazed at the sheer amount of work that went into changing the mechanics of combat, the troop costs, compiling the armory, etc.  Many subtle things were changed e.g.  the Vulture Crossbowmen now being able to panic (wish they were still immune), the Blood-bones all did X2 damage, etc.  All the numbers were changed from Close Combat, Damage, Leadership; it was an enormous undertaking.

Not to mention collating all the fluff and fiction from multiple sourcebooks!  It may have not been proofread to my liking, but it was a feat gettin' it done even as it is.  Yo.

I wish that a 3rd edition (I know how tacky that sounds) would be done as well (color printing) as the Warzone book and the old edition Chronopia.  That wouldn't hurt either. 
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2006, 01:45:24 PM »
I'm all for a third edition.  Along with a complete resculpt of the mini lines.

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2006, 01:48:15 PM »
no complete resculpting plsssssssss what would i do with all my armys  :'(
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2006, 01:49:57 PM »
Really, I like my firstborn army the way it is, just resulpt the RK in a more action pose, in his old look before the wings.
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2006, 01:51:59 PM »
As long as the caveat where any old models are still good in tournament play for us old heads, who are having to work for a living and have mouths to feed, applies,  I say GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2006, 02:02:10 PM »
  I think the game deperately need it.  The current market is all about production value.  If the books and figures are not top tier quality, they won't even get a second glance.  There are too many other good looking games to choose from. 
  No company in their right mind would ban the use of armies or figures that their players have already spent the time and money on purchasing and painting.

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2006, 02:06:22 PM »
My opinions are in no way official of course.  The course of action for Chronopia's future is up to Thom, assuming the license is renewed.

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2006, 10:16:56 PM »
No company in their right mind would ban the use of armies or figures that their players have already spent the time and money on purchasing and painting.

I can name one!
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2006, 11:31:33 PM »
No company who's marketing plan does not include an endless supply of fresh faced 13 year olds to replace the players they burn out within a few years time.

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2006, 11:46:21 PM »
I'm all for a third edition.  Along with a complete resculpt of the mini lines.

I think I can see blinking $ in your eyes... ;D ;D
It may be that the current minis don't match the quality that is now available but minis are only a part of the whole!

I don't think there has to be a third edition. The second is really good and not too old. EE and their games are no mainstream games, and the people lurking out here do it cause they love the games...the minis don't matter that much (at least to me).

Yesterday I found some celtos-pics on the net. The minis look quit good. And some of them could be taken 1:1 out of the SOK sourcebook, but I wouldn't ever think about using them as proxies...

just my tweo cents...
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2006, 11:51:41 PM »
funny thing about some of those Celtos mini's....

some of the sculpts to come out of the Void lines and the Celtos lines do bear a stunning resemblance to the some of the last sculpts to come out of Target.


funny that..

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2006, 11:56:01 PM »
Yes, altough I wouldn't call it funny!

There are other companies that are more into 'borrowing' ideas...last time I saw some guys playing 40K I thought they were playing something like Alien, the movies...

BTW I would really like some AvP-game...
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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2006, 12:07:12 AM »
I see a property good enough to be top of the line that is wasting on the vine.

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Re: Changes from 1st ed to 2nd ed?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2006, 12:42:55 AM »
as long as the Skull to head ratio remains less than one i'll be happy.
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