Negative to hit values with template weapons.

[Gallagher_Standard_Barer]

The way my group plays 0 is no damage, so no save is required.

[dmcgee1]

Some of you wrote "the attack does 0 damage".
But what does 0 damage mean?
Does it mean, that the victim has to roll a save and
if he rolls a 20 he gets one wound?

No, DM 0 is just that - no damage.  a roll of "20" is not[/b] a critical failure when rolling an AR save.  Therefore, if a target has 20 AR, and DM is (modified) 1, then a 20 fails (20-1=19).  However, if a model has an AR of 21, that same DM 1 can cause no damage, so there is no need to roll (21-1=20; even rolling a 20 would save).

If the weapons DM winds up being 0, then there is no chance to cause damage, even against an AR of 0 (probably PFC Joe's AR on Saturday morning after a good (bad?) Friday night - ).

[PFC joe]

as far as i'm concerned, Friday nights end sometime Sunday afternoon (or whenever I can find my car keys and figure out a Coyote Ugly excuse)  But yes, 0 damage requires no Armor save.  Unless she somehow manages to get your phone number, then you have to make a Wingman's LD check to see if he intercepts the attacks.


(Funny story, I got a lot more popular when someone made up the rumor that I was in an open relationship and didn't tell me about it.)

-PFC joe

[dmcgee1]

I'll be your wingman, anytime, Joe.  However, I ain't gnawing off your arm.  You're on your own, there, bud.