Author Topic: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED  (Read 6873 times)

Offline Buzzu

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STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« on: May 13, 2008, 09:17:11 AM »
Hy everybody.
I'm an Italian player and a very great collector of Chronopia minis. I got all the eight armies (mostly original units, but some proxy) and I play with a small group of friends. We played for years with the first edition, and we recently decided to use the 2.0 because of the re-balance it brought between the armies. The army I'm using at the moment is the sons of kronos.
I got some things to clarify about the allies of the firstborn or the devout if using the tribes of the dawn and the shadow one.

-In the main book is told that, if I play with the tribe of the goddess, I can use the units of the tribe of the dawn too. It's not mentioned the shadow tribe, so I suppose it's not possible, as instead was in the first edition, to play a monarch with the viridian lords, or the blade maidens with the unliving... Is it correct? That's a shame.

Anyway, this forces me to use the allies to set some worthy composition. I decided to use the unholy champion. The bonus he gives are used by the undeads, and unlivings are classified as such, but... in the description of the standard of the hatred I read somewhere in this forum, it's specified that the standard is reserved to the devouts only. This means I cannot use it even if allied? I need to know because it would be very amazing to move the unlivings with a normal MV rate!
And, by the way, I've not understood how does the wounds of the standard work.

Another matter is the tribe of dawn. I can use only naqada runes spells. All the naqada spells are for sons of kronos only. This means that I cannot buffer the firstborn heroes I'd like to play with. This is clear and I agree with the idea. But I'd like to know if , on the contrary, the effects of the special abilities of the firstborn heroes will affect the sons of kronos. I mean the paladin +2 to RC and CC, and the judge immunisation from panick and rally rule.

Last question: Savage roots can affect the giant skeleton too? We discussed it because it's told that giant skeleton fluctuates on the ground. Is it out of reach? I think the same question should be done for the giant wirm of the stygians.

Thanks a lot and forgive mi lenghtness and my bad grammar.

Buzzu.

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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2008, 09:39:39 AM »
1. Correct. A Tribe of the Goddess army may not take Shadow Tribe.

2. Regarding the Standard of Hatred and the Unholy Champion. The Avatar of War Standard can only be taken by the Unholy Champion: no one else may use it. It has its own AR and Wounds, so it remains on the field after the Champion is destroyed. Then it must be destroyed, as well.

So yes, Unliving are Undead, so you may attach the Unholy Champion to a unit of Unliving.

3. Yes, the bonus of the Repulsar Knight and the Judge will affect them, as the rules state it affects ANY friendly model.

4. Yes, Savage Roots does affect the Giant Skeleton, and pretty much anything else for that matter, as the rules for the spell do not specify that the target must be on the ground.

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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2008, 01:17:50 PM »
Does the Standard affect all the undead on yourside?  Thats kind of the way I saw it.
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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 07:29:05 AM »
Does the Standard affect all the undead on yourside?  Thats kind of the way I saw it.

Yep. Per the fine print on the rule pic:

"Affects all designated units within the bearer's army"

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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 01:15:33 PM »
Good answers as usual Southpaw.

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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 02:39:43 PM »
Thanks a lot for your answers, Southpaw!

Now it will be very different to play with a line of 12 unlivings moving with the normal 3 inches!

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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 06:28:20 PM »
Thats the way I read it to.  My shodow Tribe O' dead army is just so much fun.
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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 08:43:10 AM »
I wonder if it works on The Cursed, as they are undead.  Imagine them at 4" move, and can run!!
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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 10:44:42 AM »
I wonder if it works on The Cursed, as they are undead.  Imagine them at 4" move, and can run!!

Yep. That's where mine is usually parked.

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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 06:28:26 PM »
You have to have cursed if you want to have a full effect! ;D  They really become brutal with the standard.  Its one of the main reason I have so many Cursed minis. :D
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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2008, 12:29:34 PM »
One day they will meet my Wolf Clan Axemen, and we'll see how tough they are.  At 4", they'll only reach them faster, and my Desert Wolves'll still keep pace.  I hope one day to meet more of our Midwest forum members and get a game in.
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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2008, 10:08:24 AM »
That would be fun!   ;D ;D  I look forward to the day.
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Re: STANDARD OF THE HATRED & UNTAMED
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 07:03:26 AM »
Let's see when this Midwest gathering happens...
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