I coulda' sworn they were on here somewhere, maybe from one of Coki's threads, and Thom had put some on as well, but I'm not seein' em anywhere this morning. I'm hoping that this, and the OS Elves Count Elithiron's stats will come back front and center. I just primed'em this weekend and I'm lookin' to damage the locals in my area too. And Southpaw, now that you tell us how cool this Golem is, I can see you truly are in league with the Devi, as my latest credit card bill will attest. Cheers.