Lotus Eaters Magic questions

[Wedge]

I clearly remember Thom making a distinction between thrown and missile weapons.  In other words, if the book says missile weapons it is only referring to bows and crossbows and not spears, javelins, etc.

But, it would be nice to hear him chime in to clarify again... 

[Glenn M]

Wedge, I was under the impression they are considered to be different as well.

Logical, sometimes, but not normally, this is one of those lovely gray areas.

[Southpaw]

I clearly remember Thom making a distinction between thrown and missile weapons.  In other words, if the book says missile weapons it is only referring to bows and crossbows and not spears, javelins, etc.

But, it would be nice to hear him chime in to clarify again... 

I remember that, as well.

SP

[DogOWar]

House CL under freeze spell it lists it as a cold based attack.  Does this mean that a cold blooded opponent would have to make a role vs 4 pts damage when struck by this spell and subsequently every turn if it failed its save and were frozen?  I would say yes, as it lists that all cold based attacks have dam. increased by 4, and this spell is stated as being a cold based attack.

[troy-the-just]

or is their save reduced by 4???/

[DogOWar]

shameless bump!  Anybody have an answer fro my last question?

[Southpaw]

Ok, here's my take on it.

Freeze is a Cold-Based attack, but per Cold-Blooded, the +4 technically only goes to Damamge, the way it is written.

So, me personally, I would not make the Stygian make an AR save vs 4 every turn, as there is no actual damamge to increase due to Cold-Blooded. However I would increase the Strength of the Freeze by +4 per Cold-Blooded from 12 to 16.

That's how I would play it.

SP

[T Prime]

shameless bump!  Anybody have an answer fro my last question?

See FAQ... http://forum54.oli.us/index.php?topic=310.0

[Topkick]

southpaw

it appears you are interpreting it as a defensive spell, where it appears to me to be offensive in nature, certainly any spell might be used at both.

I guess i dont see the logic on how something can block LOS for missile fire, firing out or incoming, but not affect LOS for any other long range type use.  Your comments on CC, charge, movement, etc. are right on, but I have particular problems with the book when something doesnt seem logical.  It appears to me to be as likely an oversight etc. as meaning to be strictly interpreted as it is written. 

No offense, but Id like to hear some other views on this, if this spell is intended as you mention, it has 2 uses only

My best example would be being in a tree stand and seeing a buck approach. While you can see the animal there are a lot of factors that would prevent a shot - wind, intervening small branches, ground fog, drizzle, snow flurries, etc. The buck can be seen but the bowshot is not worth taking as the LOS is not adequate for the purpose even though the buck is visible to the naked eye.

[DogOWar]

shameless bump!  Anybody have an answer fro my last question?

See FAQ... http://forum54.oli.us/index.php?topic=310.0

That covers the Blizzard question.  My "bump" was about Freeze question.  I looked in the Spell clarifications and didn't see what you meant? I checked it a couple of times as I do miss things from time to time.    If I'm still missing it I'm sorry.

[DogOWar]

Ok, here's my take on it.

Freeze is a Cold-Based attack, but per Cold-Blooded, the +4 technically only goes to Damamge, the way it is written.

So, me personally, I would not make the Stygian make an AR save vs 4 every turn, as there is no actual damamge to increase due to Cold-Blooded. However I would increase the Strength of the Freeze by +4 per Cold-Blooded from 12 to 16.

That's how I would play it.

SP

Thanks Southpaw.  That would be an excellent "middle of the road" way to handle it. 

[Southpaw]

I thought so, too, which is generally the course I take in rulings and rules interpretations. Glad to be of service.

SP

[troy-the-just]

ill buy that southpaw!  you can see them, but too much stuff in the way to execute a missile attack, magic is different, thanks, that eases my brain fever on that issue!

[Southpaw]

My pleasure, as always. You're very welcome.

SP

[troy-the-just]

for a moment i forgot one of my rules for RPGs and wargames:


Magic is not logical, and trying to apply logic to magic is not intended by the games rules, leading to unexpected consequences