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Re: Heroes
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2006, 02:53:00 PM »
Too much work getting in the way - Which one was Eden...the cheerleader or the psycho-mommy?
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2006, 02:55:14 PM »
Too much work getting in the way - Which one was Eden...the cheerleader or the psycho-mommy?


neither she had the voice power that made do what she told them.
who works for the cheerleaders dad.
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2006, 03:45:02 PM »
He's one of my favorite characters, and I don't even know his name.  That's what being a sidekick is. 

his name in Ando...

and count me on the superdork fanboy list...I love watching that show...it actually made me stop watching the first hour of WWE...

I do wonder how they are going to explain Peter not blowing himself, and the rest of New York, in a nuclear inferno...

and all in all, my favorite character is Hiro...he is just an obsessed superdork also, but with a purpose...

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obviously Hiro learns English, he talked to Peter in the subway...
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2006, 04:11:02 PM »
I'm on this bandwagon too.  I like the "human" interactions, reactions, and denials.  I think the pace is a little slow as well and even for low budget the effects can be better but, I still watch it every week.
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2006, 04:13:48 PM »
Thank God for Winter repeats - I will get someone to TIVO these for me.
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2006, 04:15:17 PM »
I'm on this bandwagon too.  I like the "human" interactions, reactions, and denials.  I think the pace is a little slow as well and even for low budget the effects can be better but, I still watch it every week.

I hope that the pace picks up a little bit the next half season...I laugh when I remember that the bomb that takes out New York is supposed to go off on Nov 3...

now that the characters are directly interacting with each other, I think that the pace will quicken...

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and what's with the Haitian talking?...
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2006, 04:17:29 PM »
I just can't get Mariah Carey out of my head whenever I think about this show!  Not that I don't enjoy picturing Mariah Carey, it's just that she has nothing to do with the show!
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2006, 04:37:34 PM »
I just can't get Mariah Carey out of my head whenever I think about this show!  Not that I don't enjoy picturing Mariah Carey, it's just that she has nothing to do with the show!

what?...

that makes almost no sense whatsoever...

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Re: Heroes
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2006, 04:39:46 PM »
She did a song in the late 90's called Hero.
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2006, 04:41:47 PM »
She did a song in the late 90's called Hero.

the only song like that I know of is that annoying We can be Heroes song by the Wallflowers...

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now I have that song stuck in my head...
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2006, 04:46:26 PM »
 http://www.mcarchives.com/ 

HERO
The second single from the album "Music box" was the powerful and inspirational ballad "Hero", and just like "Dreamlover" it climbed to number 1. This gave Mariah a remarkable total of eight number 1 Billboard singles. Curiously, "Hero" wasn't originally intended as a song for Mariah to sing, let alone as a single. It was meant to be the theme for the movie "Hero", starring Dustin Hoffman and Geena Davis.

"The people over at Epic Records were going to do the soundtrack for the film," Walter Afanasieff explained to Fred Bronson. "They wanted to have Mariah sing the theme to it, but they didn't really think they could because at that time you couldn't get near Mariah to do anything film-wise. So they wanted to try the next best thing, which was to have us write something."

The movie had been screened for Afanasieff, and he'd been advised that Gloria Estefan would probably sing the theme. This happened while he and Mariah were working on "Music box". "I went to New York and we were in the studio and came to a break. I was sitting at the piano and told Mariah about this movie. Within two hours, we had this incredible seed for this song, Hero. It was never meant for Mariah to sing. In her mind, we were writing a song for Gloria Estefan for this movie. And we went into an area that Mariah really didn't go into. In her words, it was a bit too schmaltzy or too pop ballady or too old-fashioned as far as melody and lyrics."

The two were still working on the song when Tommy came into the studio to meet Mariah. Hearing a rough take, he asked what it was and they explained it to him. "Are you kidding me?" he replied. "You can't give this song to this movie. This is too good, Mariah, you have to take this song. You have to do it."

And so, with some lyrical changes, making it very personal, that was what she did. Walter told the Epic soundtrack people that he'd been unable to come up with a song, and the movie' s theme, "Heart of a hero", ended up being written, recorded, and produced by Luther Vandross.

There were two versions of Hero: "a simpler performance on tape and a more difficult one, with Mariah singing out more. But we choose a happy medium. The song really calls for not anything really fancy. But she's always fighting the forces inside of her because she's her own devil's advocate. She wants to do something that's so over the top and use her talents and the voice she has. But she also knows she has to restrain herself and do what music really calls for."

The proceeds from the single, which stayed at number 1 for four weeks, were donated to the families of the victims of the shooting on the Long Island Rail Road, a commuter line Mariah knew well. On December 7, 1993, a man had gone on a shooting rampage on an evening train. Mariah had often taken the LIRR in her younger days, when she was still living on Long Island and working with Ben Margulies at Bedworks.

Around 1995, two claims popped up against Mariah in court, one from Christopher Selletti and the other from Rhonda Dimmie, who oddly claimed different things: Selletti says the lyrics to "Hero" were his, Dimmie said the music was hers. They had never met or even heard of each other, however.

 
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2006, 05:21:11 PM »
ohkay...

that was a little more information that I ever needed...

just the image of Mariah (pre or post loony, either is nice) was enough...

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Re: Heroes
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2006, 05:44:49 PM »
Don't forget Billy don't be a hero by some Annoying Castralto Group
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Re: Heroes
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2006, 06:01:07 PM »
ummmmmmm.......Maria............Carey..........



hey....what are you guys doing here ??????


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Re: Heroes
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2006, 06:05:21 PM »
hey....what are you guys doing here ??????

We're just talking officer, really.  Nothing to see here.   ::)
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