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Title: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on May 12, 2009, 04:01:55 PM: Whether you were at Talamania III or not, I doubt there was anyone who wasn’t in some way tantalized by the chariot races we ran. William’s superb chariots (all custom builds) were both a thrill to look at and fun to play with. Based on the responses to those pictures, you agreed. Those models were nothing less than inspiring and it is in that spirit that we have decided to hold our first Talaminiatures Chariot Building Contest.

This is a fun contest, meant to inspire each other. Keep that in mind as you proceed. A secret panel of Judges (names withheld to protect from graft) will score the entries and determine the top three winners in each category. There are two categories for this contest, an Ultimate Warzone Competition and a Chronopia: War in the Eternal Realm Competition. Talaminiatures and Veezcon Industries, and some other friends will provide prizes as we proceed. A special section will be added for this in the painting area. This contest is open to all forum members and the following rules apply.

RULES

1. Entries must be submitted in final form by photos by midnight on 08/15/09, or else be disqualified.
2. Final entry photos must include a left, right, center, rear and overhead shot of the model(s).
3. Only one (1) entry per category per person.
4. All entry designs must be chariot styled (i.e.- a conveyance pulled by something).
5. All entries must be based so they could be used in game play.
6. All entries must use models designed for the two games. Alterations to the posing, etc…are allowed.
7. Conversions are welcomed so long as the basic figures and such remain identifiable.
8. If a model has not been released for the games and you have made a proxy for it yourself, that is allowed. Substitution of another company’s models is not encouraged. Scratch
built vehicles are welcomed.
9. Creativity is the name of this game, though it is set within the framework of the two settings. Make sure your entries adhere to the designs and motifs established therein.

JUDGING

Judges will rank entries based on the following five criteria:

1. Overall Design. How well the model is crafted and assembled, how well it conveys movement and action.
2. Creativity. How well the model captures the flavor of the game/race/rules.
3. Basing. How well the base completes and compliments the model you created.
4. Quality of Conversions. Pretty self evident.
5. Painting. Including technique, neatness, skill in execution, coherent color scheme, and overall appearance.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 12, 2009, 04:39:29 PM: Dang!! Mine's already ineligible.

Thought should be given to the fact that these ranges aren't in production, and some may be loathe to use their last Ripper Beasts to convert to a racechariot.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on May 12, 2009, 04:43:23 PM: No. They can do it, there are creative alternatives. Ripper Beasts don't have to be hard mounted. Think of the dioramas presented in WD where the models are part of a scenic display but removable for play. :D
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 12, 2009, 04:44:18 PM: Okay. That's got me thinking.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on May 12, 2009, 04:59:09 PM: There are an awful lot of things you could do without ruining the integrity of your models.
;) ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 12, 2009, 06:09:43 PM: Well, I'm probably going off reservation a bit, even if it disqualifies me!! It's the only time I can do it. Sigh.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Dragon62 on May 12, 2009, 06:27:01 PM: Josh I have 2 ripperbeast if you need them.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: kman on May 12, 2009, 07:50:18 PM: Is the point of the contest to convert up a model or just build a chariot of some sort? In other words, would an entry lose creativity points if it was a released model (i.e. the Firstborn chariot)?
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on May 12, 2009, 08:06:42 PM: You can use a firstborn chariot without penalty if you are doing a firstborn chariot. Your creativity isn't hurt by this. The point is to build a chariot and have fun. If you enter the FBC as sold, that's great. If you add to it, just as good.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: masherking on May 13, 2009, 05:00:23 AM: Ooooooooo I could enter this just so happens I have something for both Chronopia and Warzone.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Coil on May 13, 2009, 06:07:45 AM: I have a plan for my Chronopia chariot already. :)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 13, 2009, 06:16:10 AM: I'll have to build two!! I'll enter the legal one in the contest. I think I will call it: "Coil's Bane." ;D
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Alxbates on May 13, 2009, 09:22:36 AM: Hmmm... I'll have to enter something for Chronopia.

Off the top of my head, though, there aren't any Chariot-type conveyances for the Devout.

Am I out of bounds if I come up with something new, a new chariot type? Something that just looks cool, and is based appropriately, but maybe doesn't have rules in the game?

-Alex
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Veez on May 13, 2009, 09:35:41 AM: Near as I can tell, the intent of the contest is for the chariot game at the end of Talamania rather than any in cannon pieces (I don't recall any chariots in UWZ).

Be inspired and produce your own!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on May 13, 2009, 09:45:57 AM: I second Veez' comment. Create away Alex. maybe I'll make it if its that cool.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Alxbates on May 13, 2009, 10:51:25 AM: Sweet... Thanks, gentlemen!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Coil on May 13, 2009, 10:57:45 AM: Take a look in the Talamania III pic thread to see what type of creations we are talking about.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 13, 2009, 11:02:18 AM: Bill Refsland's Devout Chariot had two Nameless Beasts, you know, the phallic lizard things, as the engines for the chariot.

It's all about fun. The Dwarf one has a Dark Tusk Totem pulling it, the SOK and Firstborn have horses, as do the Elves, though I would have made theirs with Dragonbane!!

The pics may have to be moved here for inspiration.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: wmeredith on May 13, 2009, 01:14:57 PM: Hello

I thought the SOK chariot had two Elk from the Monarch pulling it.

wmeredith
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 14, 2009, 06:09:39 AM: That would be cool. I don't remember the SOK one, as I was too busy racing!! And winning!! :-\
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on May 14, 2009, 08:10:38 AM: William is right, the SOK was pulled by twin Monarch Elks...very nice indeed. It was beautiful.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on May 14, 2009, 09:08:09 AM: My mind is racing at the thought of racing... ;)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on May 14, 2009, 12:27:15 PM: Got some great ideas. They have to do especially with the following rule:

All entry designs must be chariot styled (i.e.- a conveyance pulled by something).

I am thinking Warzone Capital.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on May 24, 2009, 08:24:07 AM: So what is the typical base size?
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dmcgee1 on May 24, 2009, 08:58:16 AM: 2" to 3" by 3" to 4", or so. There is no standard. I would say that 4"by 5" would be the upper limit.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Alxbates on May 25, 2009, 04:21:19 AM: I'm looking at my "hobby priority list" of things to do, and I may have to back out of my intention to enter the contest. I've got a couple three things I need to sculpt, pretty much everything in my Forge of Ice catalog still to paint, and a couple of units for my Wargods world campaign army to paint, too.

Building and converting a Chronopia chariot is on the list, but I really shouldn't do it before I do the other stuff...

*sigh*

There just aren't enough hours in the day... :(

-Alex
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dane on May 25, 2009, 06:15:51 PM: No matter what every valid entry in this contest will receive a personalized unit card and will be welcome to be used at every event that this game is run. Also all valid entries will receive there own PDF of the latest version of the rules so they can run it any time they want.

Thanks for making this so neat guys, I loved doing this for Thom, never thought it would get this cool.

You guys rock!

William
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Topkick on May 25, 2009, 06:30:32 PM: I've been after these rules for years. I'm definitely in now. :D
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on May 26, 2009, 05:19:28 AM: Quote from: dane on May 25, 2009, 06:15:51 PM
No matter what every valid entry in this contest will receive a personalized unit card and will be welcome to be used at every event that this game is run. Also all valid entries will receive there own PDF of the latest version of the rules so they can run it any time they want.

Thanks for making this so neat guys, I loved doing this for Thom, never thought it would get this cool.

You guys rock!

William

What a motivational tool. You guys rock!!!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dmcgee1 on May 26, 2009, 05:55:57 PM: Where's the voting option for, "Both - why are you even asking?"
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Coil on May 26, 2009, 10:13:19 PM: I got two ideas for Warzone chariots over the weekeend. I know what is going to be pulling my chariots. Now I have to come up with the materials for the chariots.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on May 31, 2009, 07:44:03 AM: Just won a SOK scythed Chariot from e-Pay so guess what I'm building???
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: leutenantbrittan on June 01, 2009, 04:50:12 AM: Cant wait to see what people come up with!

I am planning on building a barbarian wartower for Leviathan and may steal any good ideas I spot!

While on the subject does anyone know where I can get hold of some large spoked wheels (probably need to be about 60mm across as the wartower is a bit of a beast!)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on June 01, 2009, 05:47:09 AM: I've got the chariot, an old GW chaos one, but can't decide what should be pulling it.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on June 01, 2009, 11:36:36 AM: Quote from: joshuaslater on June 01, 2009, 05:47:09 AM
I've got the chariot, an old GW chaos one, but can't decide what should be pulling it.

Find some musk ox figures maybe some from hlbs.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on June 08, 2009, 08:16:21 AM: Still waiting on my SOKs :-\
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Coil on June 16, 2009, 10:01:24 PM: The other day I rummaged through the bit box of a friend and found three very nice chariot chassis. I think he said they were from Mageknight. With some conversions they look like they are going to make an excellent basis for my chariots.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on June 17, 2009, 05:41:51 AM: I am having trouble even starting this project. The guy I trained for 12 weeks to take my position (VP's brother) went back to the production super job he had before he came over. Of course this happened right when I was on vacation. I thought I would have time to work on the chariot this week, but now I am playing catch up.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on June 17, 2009, 07:39:05 AM: Dude I am still waiting on my SOKs so I feel ya
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on June 17, 2009, 08:56:53 AM: Luckily (excuse the pun) I have all I need to satrt the chariot. I just need to find the time to do it.

I was thinking of instead of a present for Fater's Day, how about a day to myself to paint etc.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Veez on June 17, 2009, 10:41:52 AM: I haven't even gotten past the "it would be cool if I...." stage yet. Right now I have a bunch of started Bauhaus stuff but another project has caught my attention for the time being.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Coil on June 17, 2009, 11:26:26 AM: Here are the three options I have at the moment for the basic chariot frame.
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/8028/cimg3678.th.jpg) (http://img44.imageshack.us/i/cimg3678.jpg/)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on June 17, 2009, 12:25:33 PM: I really like the one on the left!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on June 18, 2009, 04:22:22 PM: Just got my SOKs in da mail today guess what I'm doing?
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Alxbates on June 20, 2009, 02:08:46 PM: Bah, I've been busy with a bunch of other stuff lately, so I haven't worked on my idea at ALL...

-Alex
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on June 21, 2009, 04:28:27 AM: I really want to Donkey Punch the guy who designed the SOK chariot. I'm still trying to put one side on it. :( I just need to find me some things to pull it now.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on June 26, 2009, 04:59:02 PM: Got my chariot together finally, all painted up too with the rider. I am deciding if I want to just but the regular rider on or not. Still looking for something besides horse power but will still paint them.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Coil on June 28, 2009, 11:25:23 PM: I've got my chariot built as well. I didn't use any of the ones in the pic. Instead I scratch built something. I've also done some conversion work on the nepharite who is going to be standing in the chariot. Next up is painting the neph, the driver and the beasts.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on July 06, 2009, 02:50:08 AM: Cut my base out of plexi over several days since all I got is an exacto. Just have the driver left to finish. I should have my pics up this week.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on July 07, 2009, 02:18:57 PM: Do I get a prize for finishing first? :)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii193/davekufner/Contest/001.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii193/davekufner/Contest/002.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii193/davekufner/Contest/003.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii193/davekufner/Contest/004.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii193/davekufner/Contest/005.jpg)

I suck at taking photos of minis BTW.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on July 07, 2009, 05:42:51 PM: That looks great. Very, very nice job!!!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Veez on July 08, 2009, 03:05:53 AM: Our first contestant!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Wrathraven on July 10, 2009, 05:57:53 AM: Seems like a Contest 4 me!!! Now i have some motivation to paint one of my Firstborne Chariot's... I'm going to cut a base 4 my firstborn Chariot today after getting back home, what size should it be to be ideal 4 the game?
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on July 10, 2009, 08:45:38 AM: Quote from: dmcgee1 on May 24, 2009, 08:58:16 AM
2" to 3" by 3" to 4", or so. There is no standard. I would say that 4"by 5" would be the upper limit.

I hope this helps you.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Seamus on July 10, 2009, 01:23:56 PM: I should visit more often. This contest has me intrigued, especially for Warzone. Based on the rules, I take it that the "chariot" can have more than 2 wheels and doesn't neccesarily need to be pulled by a beast or thinking but could use some type of other power, say steam driven. I've got two great ideas for Capitol and one for the Dark Legion. I'm moving the end of this month so I don't know how much time I will have to work on it until after the 27th but will try to get it finished before contest end.

Any extra points if it can move under its own power?
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on July 10, 2009, 02:13:27 PM: Quote from: Seamus on July 10, 2009, 01:23:56 PM
I should visit more often. This contest has me intrigued, especially for Warzone. Based on the rules, I take it that the "chariot" can have more than 2 wheels and doesn't neccesarily need to be pulled by a beast or thinking but could use some type of other power, say steam driven. I've got two great ideas for Capitol and one for the Dark Legion. I'm moving the end of this month so I don't know how much time I will have to work on it until after the 27th but will try to get it finished before contest end.

Any extra points if it can move under its own power?

Wheels are optional as long as it is a conveyance being pulled by something. A pair of Pegasus scout bikes pulling a sled would be kool
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on July 30, 2009, 03:37:39 PM: Anyone else gonna post their pictures? The dead line is approaching fast like.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Alxbates on July 30, 2009, 08:26:56 PM: Nah, I haven't even started on mine yet... too much other stuff to do. But I'm looking forward to seeing everyone else's entries!

-Alex
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on July 31, 2009, 05:49:32 AM: At my current rate, I may have it ready for next year's Talamania.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on July 31, 2009, 08:02:18 AM: Must...get...moving....
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on July 31, 2009, 12:54:13 PM: Quote from: luckyone on July 31, 2009, 05:49:32 AM
At my current rate, I may have it ready for next year's Talamania.

Since it's not tilll next spring no worries :).

I would like to see everyone else's stuff though.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Wrathraven on August 04, 2009, 12:19:55 AM: I hope I can paint mine this weekend... Although I'm not satisfied in what I have done till now, there is no time to wash the paint down. I had few ideas about basing the model, but the firstborn chariot is rather charging, so there shouldn’t be any stones etc. in his way… I will make some fast paint, and then just leave it as it is painted, I have too many minis to wash them all the time… I hope U will like mine firstborn chariot… And I hope I can make it to paint it.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on August 12, 2009, 04:39:33 PM: I may have my Ogre Elite ready for the chariot, but now the chariot is too small for him, and there's no way I'll finish on time. Here's some WiP's of the conversion I did on Heresy's "Meatpie" Ogre. Sigh.

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x284/joshuaslater/GWReaperHeresy007.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x284/joshuaslater/GWReaperHeresy008.jpg)

(http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x284/joshuaslater/GWReaperHeresy009.jpg)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on August 12, 2009, 05:55:20 PM: Great work Josh. Hope to see the chariot soon (he has to fit somehow)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on August 13, 2009, 03:02:36 AM: ewww Sumo Ogre butt crack... ;D, Maybe he should pull the chariot
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on August 13, 2009, 03:10:00 AM: You know what they say. Say no to crack.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on August 13, 2009, 10:25:06 AM: You guys are too funny. Maybe I should just pin a model of a Goblin on his fat shoulders like they are Master Blaster, and that's my entry. It would take a miracle to get any of it together by this weekend, and I've other things I'm working on.....

Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: luckyone on August 13, 2009, 05:55:01 PM: Two men enter one man leaves.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Wrathraven on August 14, 2009, 01:12:30 AM: the question is: can I paint the half of a chariot, driver and one knight and make a basement for it in one night? Answer: Sure I can, but it won’t be a masterpiece ;) I will do my best. From 8pm till midnight its only 4 hours. The deadline is today or tomorrow midnight? And I assume it’s the forum time? :-\ :D
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Veez on August 14, 2009, 03:09:06 AM: I think there is still plenty of time for you to get the job done!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on August 14, 2009, 05:46:39 AM: We have award medals (think Olympics) for first place, second and third places. They will come engraved with your name and the event.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Dragon62 on August 14, 2009, 06:42:45 AM: I have a finished chariot but no means of putting pictures up. Maybe Dave would be willing to post it for me Saturday ;) ;) ;) It's a Swamp Goblin chariot being pulled by spiders.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: joshuaslater on August 15, 2009, 08:24:20 AM: Too cool. Hope to see you later today Phil.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on August 16, 2009, 04:38:34 AM: yaaaay I win.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Dragon62 on August 16, 2009, 07:04:44 AM: Dave took pictures of my charoit last night since I had no means of putting up pictures. They sould be up soon. I think Thom was moving the date ahead for the end of the contest. ;)
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: Wrathraven on August 17, 2009, 06:26:44 AM: Mine is almost done too. :-X But unfortunately the contest is over... :'( Maybe tomorrow I can finish it. I have lack of time, I’m at home maybe twice a week, and last weekend I was on Madonna concert and because of that I couldn’t finish it on time.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on August 17, 2009, 07:19:51 AM: Well, the deadline has come and gone! For those who finished...well done and congrats.

I know many of you have started works but never got around to finishing them. Life happens. Judging will commence this week so if you have finished your models make sure they are posted online by this evening. However, since there are some very cool "in progress" works I have heard about, we will open the second round of the competition using the same criteria and ending at Talamania IV. So if you missed this deadline, you now have a new one.

The Judges will confer and winners announced this Friday. Thanks for playing!
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: dave kufner on August 17, 2009, 01:56:18 PM: kool that will give me time to do my Capitol Chariot.
Title: Re: Chariot Building Contest
Post by: T Prime on August 22, 2009, 11:53:46 AM: Well the First Chariot Competition has ended and Dave Kufner is our unanimous winner.

;D ;D Congratulations Dave Kufner!! ;D ;D

;D ;D Congratulations Dave Kufner!! ;D ;D

You will be receiving a custom engraved medallion (gold for first prize), a special Veez Con Trophy for your mantel, customized rules for your particular vehicle, and an assortment of cool metal for your enjoyment. Well done!!

Please PM me with your mailing address and once assembled we will send it all out to you (no PO Boxes please).