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Title: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Dr. Nick on November 14, 2008, 10:01:45 AM
Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?

Is it possible? It states: "if attackt in cc .. will set of with next action".
therefore no new activation is needed, just an action.

IF yes, then how? can i use the wait to interrupt the charge with exlosion, in analog to just shooting?
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Dragon62 on November 14, 2008, 10:54:24 AM
From a wait you can countercharge. As far as shooting the Faceless dont have guns.
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: dmcgee1 on November 14, 2008, 04:41:07 PM
I agree with Phil.  The intent is that the Harness is the CC weapon, therefore, a countercharge is an Attack Action (pulling the rip-cord) with the bonus of movement.
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Wedge on November 14, 2008, 06:09:26 PM
I concur.  Otherwise, you are limiting a model that is already very limited.
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Dr. Nick on November 15, 2008, 01:43:21 AM
thanks for the replies.


it does state in the rules however that it is a specialized action to set it of, not a charge (i understood).

to use a (counter)charge will improve the template-"placement"-range from 8ī to 12ī

Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Dragon62 on November 15, 2008, 08:25:06 AM
It has as I as I know always been played as part of the attack action. When you charge you can make a CC attack, hense the roll to see if he blows himself up. The special action is if he is attacked in CC or Routs he auto-explodes on his next action. Also I dont know where your getting 8 to 12 inches movement for templete placement on a counter-charge. A countercharge is only meeting your opponent halfway, maybe 1 to 3 inches.
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Dr. Nick on November 15, 2008, 08:38:42 AM
that was badly said. i ment, in a round he can only move 2x (8ī) when he wants to explode (or later via wait).
when he can move with the 3. A (counter)charge this will add +4ī compared to not allowing the explosion with movement.

the countercharge thing has an other advantage as well, allowing him to move further to the enemy in their round before going bom.

also, no auto-explosion i think. he needs to roll
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Dragon62 on November 15, 2008, 09:10:48 AM
Page 297 under Faseless for the auto-explode on next action. Also Countercharge is not the full 4 inch move, it's meeting an opposing charge halfway.
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Bagomba on April 07, 2009, 02:48:35 PM
Hi,

just to clarify it to me... Faceless can make 3 move Actions ( last one a charge ) and then explode with the Harness ? because DMCGEE1 said that itīs a CC Weapon...

And can Facesless make a Charge, but they donīt choose to Explode and make no damage ( but they are then in CC )

last one is a Strange Question, but sometimes it make really sense :)
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Archer on April 08, 2009, 05:13:56 AM
Faceless faceless faceless....

Last ACTION activities....  (As explained by Archer using Gallows Humor)

Move ("Must get to place of Redemption...  must live to get to Gaijin lines...")
Go on Wait. ("Come to your doom Gajin")
Counter-charge ("You will not interrupt my brothers on their mission of Redemption, Gaijin!!")
the usual Charge ("I will be REDEEMED!!!  I am coming home to you, my flower, with the blood of two Gaijin!!)

In all cases, it involves a roll.  Because its considered a CC act, this covers the activation on a charge, a counter-charge or a wait action.

Does it make sense now? :):):)
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Veez on April 08, 2009, 05:29:08 AM
The only thing I don't understand is how the good ones make it through practice!
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Archer on April 08, 2009, 06:42:31 AM
The only thing I don't understand is how the good ones make it through practice!

Thats because they don't practice?
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Bagomba on April 08, 2009, 07:16:24 AM
k thx...

thatīs a clear statement  ;)

Iīll try to get the honor back to the Family and kick some Gajin Asses back to Hell...


Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Archer on April 08, 2009, 07:21:57 AM
k thx...

thatīs a clear statement  ;)

Iīll try to get the honor back to the Family and kick some Gajin Asses back to Hell...

Outstanding.  Go forth and bring honor back to your Line. :)
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: luckyone on April 08, 2009, 08:40:30 AM
The only thing I don't understand is how the good ones make it through practice!

Thats because they don't practice?

Mishimi instructor Harness trainiing 101 - to class in reference to exploding harness. 

 Quote - I am only going to show you this once - end quote.
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: dmcgee1 on April 08, 2009, 02:41:22 PM
Mishimi instructor Harness trainiing 101 - to class in reference to exploding harness. 

 Quote - I am only going to show you this once - end quote.

LMIAOWRTATMR (Laughing my Irish arse of while reading this and typing my response) :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Enker on April 08, 2009, 11:15:37 PM
I concur.  Otherwise, you are limiting a model that is already very limited.

The model is very limited in its options yes.
But it has the awaysome option that you can by two Battlewalker for a Squad Faceless which cost only 52 Points
and use them as a cheap Meetshield.

Ahh, must flame all Faceless!
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Archer on April 09, 2009, 05:04:02 AM
I concur.  Otherwise, you are limiting a model that is already very limited.

The model is very limited in its options yes.
But it has the awaysome option that you can by two Battlewalker for a Squad Faceless which cost only 52 Points
and use them as a cheap Meetshield.

Ahh, must flame all Faceless!


 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Redemption Harnes (Mishima) + Wait Action?
Post by: Lopis on April 14, 2009, 03:13:54 AM
Quote from: Enker on April 09, 2009, 12:15:37 AM
Quote from: Wedge on November 14, 2008, 06:09:26 PM
I concur.  Otherwise, you are limiting a model that is already very limited.


The model is very limited in its options yes.
But it has the awaysome option that you can by two Battlewalker for a Squad Faceless which cost only 52 Points
and use them as a cheap Meetshield.

Ahh, must flame all Faceless!

A littlle clarification:

You have two buy two Squads of Faceless for a single sqaud of Battlewalkers, which gives you an even bigger meatshield..... ;D

-->AAAAAaaahhhhh. must flame even more Faceless <---