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Warzone => Painting & Terrain => Topic started by: Wedge on April 16, 2007, 08:01:39 PM

Title: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on April 16, 2007, 08:01:39 PM
While I am no fan of painting multiple models of the same type at the same time, it is obviously necessary to do since you have to fill in all your grunt and elite squads.  Since I am following a very rigid color scheme for my Semai army I am finding this process very tedious.  *sigh*

The last models I have to paint to complete my army is a squad of Heretic Legionnaires.  Eight guys plus the Dissident leader.

This process line style of painting is killing me.  I find myself involuntarily stooping over the table as I go and it is killing my back (yes... old man here).  Any tips for breaking the monotony?  I have found that the only way for me to get through it is to take a break every 45 minutes or so.  The progress is noticable but seems so slow.

Any tips?
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dr. Nick on April 16, 2007, 11:09:46 PM
if your back makes problem beause bad position and immobility you have no choise: move

perhaps even more often than 1/45min. stand up walk some meters and move your spine, than continue every 15 minutes.

you donīt even have to put brush and fig down..

also, strech your torso and arms.


cuīs

p.s.
have fun with the dissidents, i am forced something far less nice -> writing a long text about something i think a shorter text would be complete enough......
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dragon62 on April 17, 2007, 09:37:41 AM
This is the way I've always painted. Whole squads at a time.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Veez on April 17, 2007, 02:03:36 PM
Odd, I had a huge diatribe here that never made it.


Here goes again.

Paint more than one type of squad at a time; it allows you some variety, and you also allow for time for paint to dry as you are working on the other squad.  Throw in a character or two as well.  It also helps to be motivated about the units you are painting; the Illian army I did was a skull dragger because I had not motivation.  The took the usual amount of time but felt a lot longer and I couple nights I decided to do other stuff because I didn't want to do them.  Also have something going in the background to distract you.  Music is good but TV or more interactive radio is better because it allows you to let your mind wander.  And finally yes, get up and move very 45 minutes to give your body a break.  This is how I churn out an insane amount of table quality figs.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on April 17, 2007, 03:10:29 PM
I'll try inserting a couple of individuals (or some Chronopia minis).  With 9 miniatures they usually do dry by the time I get back to the first one.  All good suggestions, thanks all!

For those of you coming to Talamania I, you'll see the fruit of my labor when you see my Warzone army.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Sylvas on April 17, 2007, 03:15:58 PM
some tips I've found useful...

1.) block in your minis...just get a base coat for all of the main areas of the mini before going in and adding detail...this gives you the ability to field the mini in a pinch, even though the paint job may not be up to snuff with the rest of your force...

2.) as the Veezer said, have 2 or more types of squads/individuals on your table to paint...breaks the monotony...

3.) a nice comfy seat...ergonomics are important, just to save your back (I'm there with the getting old)...

I usually try to make sure I get one specific thing done per session, and if I get that done, then I move onto something else...makes it look like you're making progress...

B...
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: dmcgee1 on April 17, 2007, 05:10:05 PM
if your back makes problem beause bad position and immobility you have no choise: move

perhaps even more often than 1/45min. stand up walk some meters and move your spine, than continue every 15 minutes.

you donīt even have to put brush and fig down..

also, strech your torso and arms.


cuīs

p.s.
have fun with the dissidents, i am forced something far less nice -> writing a long text about something i think a shorter text would be complete enough......

Wht he said - I concur - remain mobile.  Being sedate is hoffible for circulation and for skin and muscle under duress of gravity.  I used the opposite when I used to work retail - I would take frequent breaks to sit and stretch.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dr. Nick on April 17, 2007, 08:47:28 PM
once i wanted to go to a whfb tournament and play a cheasy high elve army...

2 (totally free) weeks i painted ~23 gw platic HE + 8! chariots+2 monster riding chars.  that is monotony...  (but they turned out well)

*** edit: that was 23 cavalry-silver helms

unfortunately, this much energy for the hobby is rare..
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Veez on April 18, 2007, 06:43:14 AM
Monotony will be when I tackled those 40+ Imperial Regulars. ???

Sylvas reminded me of another thing-when doing ginormous amounts of figs, have a plan of what you want to get accomplished so you can cross them off as they are being completed
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: masherking on April 18, 2007, 07:03:42 AM
For me  I play with the army it motivates me paint it more.
I find simiple color scheme helps with mass troops. Break it up once in a while with a big model are character
helps. Oddly the Flip side works too. When I painted my growlers I was so into the color scheme that even though it took more work to paint the whole army, the time seemed to fly by as really dug the look. 
 
This days I have hard time finding time to paint whole armys.
got about 6 armies slated for painting and man its been slow going.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on April 18, 2007, 07:34:45 AM
Well, all 8 of the Heretic Legionnaires are halfway finished.  The flesh, pants, gun, and tabards are base coated and/or dry brushed.  I just have to do the boots now, add the fine details and do some cool tattoos on their bare flesh and bingo!
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Topkick on April 18, 2007, 07:44:23 AM
Well, all 8 of the Heretic Legionnaires are halfway finished.  The flesh, pants, gun, and tabards are base coated and/or dry brushed.  I just have to do the boots now, add the fine details and do some cool tattoos on their bare flesh and bingo!

So much for bringing my Semai army now. I refuse to give my figs an inferiority complex by having them compared to Wedge's magnifient painting skills. I may have to use tiddly winks or scraps of paper to play as I will be embarrassed to show my minis in the presence of all the fantastically painted minis that I know will be there.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on April 18, 2007, 09:06:39 AM
Well, all 8 of the Heretic Legionnaires are halfway finished.  The flesh, pants, gun, and tabards are base coated and/or dry brushed.  I just have to do the boots now, add the fine details and do some cool tattoos on their bare flesh and bingo!

So much for bringing my Semai army now. I refuse to give my figs an inferiority complex by having them compared to Wedge's magnifient painting skills. I may have to use tiddly winks or scraps of paper to play as I will be embarrassed to show my minis in the presence of all the fantastically painted minis that I know will be there.

 :-[ Awww.... you flatter me sir...  :-[

There is no shame in fielding your Semai army regardless of the painting quality.  I have seen your work and it is nothing to turn a nose up at!  I think you have excellent painting skills!  Besides... Semai is the best DL army out there... I would feel emboldened if you joined me in the cause of the great Deceiver!
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Topkick on April 18, 2007, 09:39:48 AM
Actually you have seen my wallet's work - I haven't painted in years...no time or talent. I dcould get better but when I get the occassional day off the last thing I want to do is force my busted up hands and aged eyes to try and do justice to my figs. I work 60 hours a week usually so I can spare a bit of coin more than the time and body aches. Sorry if that lowers me in anyone's eyes but my talent's lie more to organizing events and writing scenarios.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Veez on April 18, 2007, 11:58:14 AM
Well, you can always go with method two:

Spray paint them black and call them ninja heretics.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Topkick on April 18, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
Well, you can always go with method two:

Spray paint them black and call them ninja heretics.

Leave them silver (unpainted) and glue them onto surfboards for an instant Heretics of Galactus army  ;D
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: masherking on April 18, 2007, 12:22:26 PM
Well, you can always go with method two:

Spray paint them black and call them ninja heretics.

Leave them silver (unpainted) and glue them onto surfboards for an instant Heretics of Galactus army  ;D

ouch!
reeling from PUN attack.
 :P
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Alpha on April 20, 2007, 04:14:24 PM
I recommend beer. It won't help the paint jobs, but you'll have more fun and less pain.....

;)
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: dmcgee1 on April 20, 2007, 05:51:39 PM
Okay, I agreed with Aldrien, before - but, now, I gotta second Alpha - I just gotta.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Sylvas on April 20, 2007, 08:13:17 PM
the Alpha method does seem to get more done...after a while (and a few drinks) you just aren't as picky as to the final product...

might have to try that myself tomorrow...

B...
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on April 20, 2007, 08:23:37 PM
I have added Krayst the Litigator and a Gomorrian Emasculater to the mix to paint inbetween the heretics when I find my patience waning...

I hope have them done as well for Talamania!

I love color schemes!  ;)
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Veez on April 21, 2007, 03:22:37 AM
The problem is depending on what you are drinking you colors may changes
Ex:

Budwiser
White heretics with red stripes on them.

Coors
Just paint them silver

Fosters
Blue with silver highlights
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dr. Nick on April 21, 2007, 04:42:56 AM
i think it will not interupt your painting to drink a little, because i remember what i once heard about american beer:


Whats does american beer and sex on the beach have in common?

-> Itīs ******* close to water!


 :) :) :)



p.s.
(http://www.250kb.de/u/070319/j/c02402b0.jpg)
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: PhillySniper on April 21, 2007, 05:49:55 AM
i think it will not interupt your painting to drink a little, because i remember what i once heard about american beer:


Whats does american beer and sex on the beach have in common?

-> Itīs ******* close to water!


 :) :) :)



p.s.
(http://www.250kb.de/u/070319/j/c02402b0.jpg)


 We may have watered down beer but I only have one thing to say about you Germans.......David Hasselhoff !!!! :D
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Topkick on April 21, 2007, 05:53:45 AM
Hey Man - Don't Hassel the Hoff  ;D
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dr. Nick on April 21, 2007, 06:09:40 AM
Quote
We may have watered down beer but I only have one thing to say about you Germans.......David Hasselhoff !!!! :D

yeah, his popularity here (in the end 80īs/ 90īs) was shameful..

thank god he is an american.. ;)

(sorry, i know that was low..)


p.s. OT:  i have been a lot in brazil and there i learned that calling usa ppl americans annoys them.. here it is common, though -> americans = usa ppl
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: PhillySniper on April 21, 2007, 07:07:23 AM
I dont think that its calling us americans that bothers us <at least not me... thats what I am>  I think when people say it like its a bad thing to be an american that people have the problem with.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dr. Nick on April 21, 2007, 07:16:57 AM
ah, a misunderstanding!

it is because they (the brazilians) donīt like that "american" is used for usa ppl.

they feel that they are americans too, just south. you can call them (south) americans without any problem..
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: wmeredith on April 21, 2007, 07:59:10 AM
Hello.

It isn't that it is used to refer to North Americans so much as it is used to refer to People in or from the United States that bothers them. I like Phillysniper am an American so it doesn't  bother me. It can bother people from other Countries on the American Continents who feel it diminishes them as a people. Though I can't say I have ever heard Canadians refer to themselves as anything other than Canadians.

wmeredith 
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Veez on April 21, 2007, 01:42:44 PM
I prefer to think of myself as a Capitol citizen.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Dr. Nick on April 21, 2007, 07:36:48 PM
:)


but i for my part are happy not to live in bauhaus.. (just to send them go glorious death)
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: dmcgee1 on April 21, 2007, 11:26:31 PM
:)
but i for my part are happy not to live in bauhaus.. (just to send them go glorious death)

We of the Houses of Bauhaus feel that rather than dying for our Duke, it is much better to make the other poor SOB's die for their corporation (to paraphrase Patton).

:)
but i for my part are happy not to live in bauhaus.. (just to send them go glorious death)

The smart-assed reply: We are too!  ;D
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Veez on April 22, 2007, 03:29:44 AM
Cuz' I'm proud to be from Captiol
Because at least I know I'm free
At least that's what the spin doctors
Have propagandized to me

And I'd gladly stand up
Next to you
And defend her still today
Cuz' there ain't no doubt I love this Corp!
Cardinal Bless the Capitol Way!
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Alpha on April 22, 2007, 04:40:40 PM
LOL

Seriously, most of the painting I do is "Line Painting". How I break it up is I have one or two individuals that are similar in color that I work on after each run down the line. That way it breaks things up a little and I still get the benefit of uniform looking squads painted efficiently.

I haven't painted or gamed in what seems like forever. :(

Can't wait until my son is ready to learn. In house gaming buddy! W00T!
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Iron Panda on April 23, 2007, 06:28:54 PM
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Cuz' I'm proud to be from Captiol
Because at least I know I'm free
At least that's what the spin doctors
Have propagandized to me

And I'd gladly stand up
Next to you
And defend her still today
Cuz' there ain't no doubt I love this Corp!
Cardinal Bless the Capitol Way!

This is awesome!!!

Yep,  Passed through my "Country Music" phase in my younger days....


Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Iron Panda on April 23, 2007, 06:33:42 PM
Quote
We may have watered down beer but I only have one thing to say about you Germans.......David Hasselhoff !!!!

yeah, his popularity here (in the end 80īs/ 90īs) was shameful..

I always liked Dave H.  from Knight Rider to current international pop star.   His songs are like guilty pleasures much like Bugles and Cheese Doodles, the crunchy kind.

Everybody loves the crunchy kind.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: dmcgee1 on April 28, 2007, 08:02:55 AM
He's right - the crunchy kind rock
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Iron Panda on April 28, 2007, 10:31:36 AM
The only downside is that your fingers get coated with orange cheese residue that won't wash out for days. 

Orange fingers are annoying and awful.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on May 01, 2007, 07:56:56 AM
FINISHED!!!

The Heretics are happily painted in all their tattoo'ed goodness.  Those coming to Talamania will get a close up looksee.  Hopefully they'll fight well to make their paint jobs proud.  Now I have to come up with nicknames for all of them.  Heretic 1, Heretic 2, etc. is so boring and passe.

I am thinking... Burt, William, Tom, and... no wait... those are trolls.
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: dmcgee1 on May 01, 2007, 07:54:55 PM
I say that you name them after you game with us  ;D
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: wmeredith on May 01, 2007, 08:16:17 PM
Hello.

How about first killed :), second shot :D, third wasted ;D and so forth. :P

wmeredith
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: PhillySniper on May 01, 2007, 08:50:04 PM
Hello.

How about first killed :), second shot :D, third wasted ;D and so forth. :P

wmeredith

Nice  ;D
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: dmcgee1 on May 02, 2007, 03:28:11 AM
How about first killed :), second shot :D, third wasted ;D and so forth. :P

...so the fourth is, "So?"  Who's on first?
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Topkick on May 02, 2007, 04:29:26 AM
How about the following:
Victim, Bullet Bait, Grenade Catcher, Lead Magnet and Irving
Title: Re: Processing Line Painting
Post by: Wedge on May 02, 2007, 06:38:31 AM
Oh ho ho ho!  You guys are extremely funny!

Scoff and poke fun all you want.... you will see!  You will marvel at how little of your army they kill!  How little the number of bullets they take before they fall!  They will fail to impress and I will prove it!

Muwahahaha... wait...

Nevermind.  ???