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Title: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 15, 2007, 05:40:49 AM
Hi,

Apocalyse rules says: you may target any point on the battlefield. Must I obey target priority or not?
Example:
My oponent have two squards, first 10" away on left side, second 20" away on right side of table.. both in full LOS, can my nefarite target apocalypse to second squard or not?

Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: Southpaw on March 15, 2007, 06:39:51 AM
Apocalypse specifically states "may target any point on the battlefield that is within Range". So this bypasses the normal targeting priority. Any point within 24" and LOS may be targeted.

SP
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 15, 2007, 07:02:42 AM
Apocalypse specifically states "may target any point on the battlefield that is within Range". So this bypasses the normal targeting priority. Any point within 24" and LOS may be targeted.

SP

Well, I means that is as you wrote. But I had conflict with some players about that and I'm interested in other verdict on that problem.

Thanks
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: masherking on March 15, 2007, 07:04:34 AM
Apocalypse specifically states "may target any point on the battlefield that is within Range". So this bypasses the normal targeting priority. Any point within 24" and LOS may be targeted.

SP

Well, I means that is as you wrote. But I had conflict with some players about that and I'm interested in other verdict on that problem.

Thanks

southpaw is as close to a offical answer as anyones ever gonna get.

By the way, Damn good Question. I have future plans for this spell and its good to have a clearer understanding......such a good "killed 3 squads in one turn MUHAHAHA!" spell.
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 15, 2007, 07:29:08 AM
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southpaw is as close to a offical answer as anyones ever gonna get.

By the way, Damn good Question. I have future plans for this spell and its good to have a clearer understanding......such a good "killed 3 squads in one turn MUHAHAHA!" spell.

Ok... In Polish and czech repubilc we are using only small explosion template for this spell. If your oponent counts with that, can hold 2-3" gap between models and then apocalypse is no deadly as is played with large explosion template.
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: masherking on March 15, 2007, 07:36:18 AM
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southpaw is as close to a offical answer as anyones ever gonna get.

By the way, Damn good Question. I have future plans for this spell and its good to have a clearer understanding......such a good "killed 3 squads in one turn MUHAHAHA!" spell.

Ok... In Polish and czech repubilc we are using only small explosion template for this spell. If your oponent counts with that, can hold 2-3" gap between models and then apocalypse is no deadly as is played with large explosion template.

I should add "the kill 3 squad" thing only happen once with me and it was more like 2 1/4 squads. thats because I rolled a 1 to cast it (got my actions back) then cast it again...never got that luck again :(

 
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: Southpaw on March 15, 2007, 09:13:26 AM
Thanks for the compliment, masher, greatly appreciated.

Admittedly Warzone is not my specialty, so take my call for what it's worth. But the wording for the spell seems to support how I would interpret it, and I think it's worded that way for just that reason.

Yep, it's nasty, but hey....Dark Legion is supposed to be nasty....

SP
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: dmcgee1 on March 15, 2007, 12:27:04 PM
I'll second Southpaw's call.  As for Polish and Czech rules, I cannot agree.  It is, in my most humlest of opinions, wrong.
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: Coil on March 15, 2007, 01:47:30 PM
Southpaw has called it correctly. The spell description is quite clear.
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 15, 2007, 03:08:17 PM
Southpaw has called it correctly. The spell description is quite clear.
Well, it means, the result of this question is: my nefarite can target any point with LOS and range, He can ignore  standard target priority rules. Correct?
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: masherking on March 15, 2007, 07:29:16 PM
Well, it means, the result of this question is: my nefarite can target any point with LOS and range, He can ignore  standard target priority rules. Correct?

Apocalypse specifically states "may target any point on the battlefield that is within Range". So this bypasses the normal targeting priority. Any point within 24" and LOS may be targeted.

SP
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: Topkick on March 15, 2007, 07:31:42 PM
Southpaw has called it correctly. The spell description is quite clear.
Well, it means, the result of this question is: my nefarite can target any point with LOS and range, He can ignore  standard target priority rules. Correct?

Yes
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 16, 2007, 02:00:24 AM
Southpaw has called it correctly. The spell description is quite clear.
Well, it means, the result of this question is: my nefarite can target any point with LOS and range, He can ignore  standard target priority rules. Correct?

Yes

I making sure that my rendering from english is correct. Thank you boys..
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: masherking on March 16, 2007, 04:25:42 AM
your welcome
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: Southpaw on March 16, 2007, 09:07:36 AM
Glad to be of service, komplikator.

SP
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: PFC joe on March 21, 2007, 01:28:45 AM
I always felt bad giving Valpurgious this spell.  It somehow seems unfair.

Of course even if he spends all four actions moving he'll still only go eight inches.
Stupid doddering old man!

-PFC joe
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: masherking on March 22, 2007, 06:08:20 AM
I always felt bad giving Valpurgious this spell.  It somehow seems unfair.

Of course even if he spends all four actions moving he'll still only go eight inches.
Stupid doddering old man!

-PFC joe

That old man could nuke Jersey all by himself 8)
He is the hoards "Fire Mission"
val is my hero. 
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 22, 2007, 06:38:35 AM
I always felt bad giving Valpurgious this spell.  It somehow seems unfair.

Of course even if he spends all four actions moving he'll still only go eight inches.
Stupid doddering old man!

Move to radius of Apocalypse can take some turns spends only by move. Great combo is Apocalypse and Necrovisual Symbiosis  ;D

But, try to play apocalypse with small explosion template... You will decrease lot of apocalypse`s power...
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: masherking on March 22, 2007, 06:45:16 AM
But, try to play apocalypse with small explosion template... You will decrease lot of apocalypse`s power...

Why would ever want to do that  8)
besides you should see what some the things these guys bring to table. I need all the firepower I can get   :P
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: chribu on March 22, 2007, 07:35:00 AM
Great combo is Apocalypse and Necrovisual Symbiosis  ;D
Still 24" from Valpy, though, right? It's just for the LOS?
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 22, 2007, 07:40:40 AM
Great combo is Apocalypse and Necrovisual Symbiosis  ;D
Still 24" from Valpy, though, right? It's just for the LOS?

Yes, of course... 24" from Valpurgius, but LOS gives target of Necrovisual Symbiosis spell.
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The Channeler may view the world through the eyes of the target and see everything he sees...

It`s usefull for very close terrains, canals... Valp can cast apocalypse round the corner if target of Nec. symb. can see that point.
Title: Re: Apocalypse and target priority?
Post by: komplikator on March 22, 2007, 07:45:32 AM
It`s usefull for very close terrains, canals... Valp can cast apocalypse round the corner if target of Nec. symb. can see that point.

It`s correct, I think... or not? What think about that FAQ team?