Excelsior Entertainment Forums
Warzone => Events, Army Ideas, Battle Reports => Topic started by: Archer on October 25, 2006, 11:43:33 AM
-
(modified rehash of previous post, as per suggestions)
Strike Team Green
elite unit; 4-8 troopers plus sergeant; up to 3 specialilsts
Trooper:
cc10 rc10 pw5 ld13 ac3 mv4 s5 w1 ar20 pc 34
gear: Bowie Knife, Calix SMG
Sergeant:
cc10 rc11 pw5 ld14 ac3 mv4 s5 w1 ar20 pc39
gear: Bowie Knife, Calix SMG, Underbarrel Launcher (Sgt)
Shotgun Spec: as trooper, pc 38 (up to two)
gear: Bowie Knife, Remington 12 shotgun
Demolition Spec: as trooper, pc 40 (up to one)
gear: Bowie Knife, Calix SMG, smoke grenades
Abilities: CC Training 1, Infiltrate. Sgt: add Tactical Sense
Demo Spec: add Demolitions
The Cartel's premere Black Ops stike team, skilled at pulling hostages out of trouble and taking the fight to the heart of the matter. Called in when no Corporate forces are available and the job needs to get done
Calix SMG- a highly accurate SMG built exclusively for the Cartel, it's special munitions is designed to hammer heavy armored foes and rend light cover enemies hide behind.
cc -2/pb +1 (2)/sr +1(2)/md -1 (1)
dmg 9 (av-1)
Remington 12 shotgun- use stats for Cybertronic shotgun
recommended models- Games Workshop Cadians, with the LasRifle cut down. Shotgun can be modified Lasgun to look like one or an Arbite Shotgun trooper or you can build one
-
Wow - looks like an anti-Vulkan unit, to me. ;)
-
First let me say I love the concept. Totally see cartel have a spec ops (beyond doomtroopers).
Demo. spec. is a great add for a unit like this. I sit on the fence about the flamethrower.
and skills seem right, at least it feels that way.
unit like this back by cartel sharpshooter would be pretty sweet. 8)
Ok now for some food for thought:
dont the peacekeepers have rc 10
and AR of 20
shouldnt elites at least match or beat that?
do wonder if they need a backup pistol???
punisher blade is that sword or bowie knife?
Just my personal take on Cartel. They have yet to have a unit with swords ( doomtroopers withstanding).
Dont see Cartel starting down we all carry swords road though a big bowie knife or better yet a pistol would fit.
I see the Cartel elite unit in black carrying smgs, flashbangs back by shotgunner and a demo man.
almost like the cartel poilce force with slightly different load out and SA's
just my 2 cents
-
First let me say I love the concept. Totally see cartel have a spec ops (beyond doomtroopers).
Demo. spec. is a great add for a unit like this. I sit on the fence about the flamethrower.
add skill seem right, at least it feels that way.
True. I'll adjust the flamer. I was not sure of it when I added it anyway.
unit like this back by cartel sharpshooter would be pretty sweet. 8)
Yep it would.
Ok now for some food for thought:
dont the peacekeepers have rc 10
and AR of 20
shouldnt elites at least match or beat that?
do wonder if they need a backup pistol???
Good point
punisher blade is that sword or bowie knife?
Just my personal take on Cartel. They have yet to have a unit with swords ( doomtroopers withstanding).
Dont see Cartel starting down we all carry swords road though a big bowie knife or better yet a pistol would fit.
I'll make it a bowie
I see the Cartel elite unit in black carrying smgs, flashbangs back by shotgunner and a demo man.
almost like the cartel poilce force with slightly different load out and SA's
just my 2 cents
And a good two cents. You and Jibba are my testers for this stuff. ;D
btw- Dave, it doe ssorta look like it but its not. Swear!!!
-
They should have RC11, as most of the "super" elites..
also, they seem a bit expensive. Cap AM cost 26(?) points and bring RC11, A22, DAM11(1*), and 2 ablilities
if they should be like a counter-strike force, then the flamer is bad, better a sniper..
what about a bauhaus shotgun spec? they are cartel, they could get it.
perhaps it is an bauhaus guy with cartel duty..
I would also consider fast shot 2 or 3 and perhaps ambush, because this would improve their reactivity potential and their commando-flavor. they go in, and when the enemy stumbles across them, he gets down.
-
They should have RC11, as most of the "super" elites..
Ironicly enough, Bauhaus has the most rc11 Elites (3). House Averages: Bernheim 8.6 (9.5 without the JK's); Sagielli: 9.6; Ricthausen: 10; Romanov: 10. Non-Aligned is 8 (10 without the shotgun units)
Capitol average is barely 9.5, with the Navy having a 9.8 and ground having 9.25 (damn Sunsets...).
Imperial is a strange case- depending on clan, its average varies with the type of coimbat bent- Murdoch has a 10.5, McG a 9.5, Bartholemew an 8.5 and the IMDF an even 10 average. Take out the CC/Shotgun units and they are the highest average overall. Wolfpack don't count.
Cybertronic is 9.75 average.
Of course the points for each unit are all over the board...
also, they seem a bit expensive. Cap AM cost 26(?) points and bring RC11, A22, DAM11(1*), and 2 ablilities
if they should be like a counter-strike force, then the flamer is bad, better a sniper..
Thought about it... but the Corp Snipers are good enough. Ask Dave or Phil... Especially Phil.
what about a bauhaus shotgun spec? they are cartel, they could get it.
perhaps it is an bauhaus guy with cartel duty..
True- but Capitol is the biggest supplier to the Cartel in terms of Fire-arms. (see all selections)
I would also consider fast shot 2 or 3 and perhaps ambush, because this would improve their reactivity potential and their commando-flavor. they go in, and when the enemy stumbles across them, he gets down.
Hmmm.... Fast Shot 2 on the existing stats. Who wants to try them?
-
Ok now for some food for thought:
dont the peacekeepers have rc 10
and AR of 20
shouldnt elites at least match or beat that?
do wonder if they need a backup pistol???
Bauhaus Dagoons (grunts) have 9 RC and 20 AR, while Jungle Kommandos (elites) have 7 RC and 18 AR - something to add to the menu.
-
but low armor is fluff -> hot jungle
shotguns and low rc -> simply to keep the cost down, i guess
-
Ok now for some food for thought:
dont the peacekeepers have rc 10
and AR of 20
shouldnt elites at least match or beat that?
do wonder if they need a backup pistol???
Bauhaus Dagoons (grunts) have 9 RC and 20 AR, while Jungle Kommandos (elites) have 7 RC and 18 AR - something to add to the menu.
I guess their training was in jungle survival not target shooting ;)
-
I was trying to present an example of elites that were not as trained or armored than a grunt unit from same corp.
-
I was trying to present an example of elites that were not as trained or armored than a grunt unit from same corp.
OHHHHHHHHHHHHh was that what that was. :P
-
Well, really, when you're trained to fire a 12 Guage Minigun, accuracy isn't all that important. :)
-
Well, really, when you're trained to fire a 12 Guage Minigun, accuracy isn't all that important. :)
Nope... Anything with a minigun generally does not need accuracy- volume of fire more than makes up for lack of aim. Ask any Tourney paintball player.
-
Well, really, when you're trained to fire a 12 Guage Minigun, accuracy isn't all that important. :)
Nope... Anything with a ninigun generally does not need accuracy- volume of fire more than makes up for lack of aim. Ask any Tourney paintball player.
The only problem I can see in Jungle kommandos having a low RC, is a game where you can drop and pick up other guns. (I know one of the scenarios had that rule)
-
Nope... Anything with a ninigun generally does not need accuracy- volume of fire more than makes up for lack of aim. Ask any Tourney paintball player.
"Ninigun", eh? That's explains a lot about your playing, John! ;D
-
"Ninigun", eh? That's explains a lot about your playing, John! ;D
Yeah yeah... when you can't flame skills or ideas, flame spelling. :P :P
Corrected post. :)
I thought you were coming up this week?
-
Whatever, when I come out next time. I'll flame some cartel, I ahve some very Hungry Dino's and some ****ed off Arabs who want to have a word with your capitalistic little behind.
:P
-
Whatever, when I come out next time. I'll flame some cartel, I ahve some very Hungry Dino's and some ****ed off Arabs who want to have a word with your capitalistic little behind. :P
Chuckie!!
I am more than willing to entertain your park attractions.... I am certain they will be well received. ;D ;D ;D Just let us know when.
-
Not this trip, but I'll bring them when I'm out here next month or January. By the way do you want to feel the Hammer or get stung?
-
Not this trip, but I'll bring them when I'm out here next month or January. By the way do you want to feel the Hammer or get stung?
Oh you are a funny guy. I've no fear of yo' Krauts or your jungle pigmies. :) Whichever is easier for you to tote out here.
-
I can almost hear the 70's SWAT theme song in the background.
PC looks too high, but they have some good stats to reflect it.