Excuse me, but what are you smoking? Next time you go to Amsterdam give yourself a little time to come down from your high before you type.
topkick, it does not help to make your point to write such stuff.
Actually that was supposed to be humorous to take the sting out of my following remarks - guess my humor doesn't translate well.
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i think it is clear that excelsior could not keep up with enough publication/support.
i am not saying that is because the ppl there where incompetent or something, but they could not (perhaps they were simply to few?)
This topic has been talked to death - I see no reason to speak ill of the people who are hosting this forum. But as you brought up their preceived shortcomings I merely compared and contrasted their track record to FFG's. I see little to no difference and since FFG is a bigger, more solid company than Excelsior was and I view that as a mark against FFG rather than Excelsior.
FFG may have pushed back the start of MC, but they felt strong enough to accept paradox conditions.
as we know from franchesco, these are quite tough.
So did Thom and Paradox never hinted that the rights were in danger of being lost til right at the end. I'm not knocking FFG as such but Paradox is in my opinion a bunch of lowlifes who deserve what they are getting.
i donīt see the delay as a weakness of FFG, but that they have the recources to wait and the management to shedule their priorities.
Then we will have to agree to disagree. The FFG rep came here and spouted a lot of crap that has not happened. For some reason though the same people who piled on Excelsior are givng FFG a free pass. If the players of Warzone as a whole had shown the same patience and understanding that FFG is getting then maybe Excelsior would still be around.
(publication speed was refering to support the game with follow up products (new minis, new armybooks, a magazin and such stuff)
Follow up products!!?? Don't you think FFG ought to get the game out at least before you praise their ability to come out with follow up products for it?
my assumed abilites to make money is not based upon the MC-revenue, but upon their courage to pick up the licence.
I fail to see how FFG taking the license after finding out that there was a dedicated following of the game -- Us -- shows courage. I see it more as chance to make a quick buck off of us because they think we are so desperate that we will accept a 54mm version in spite of the delays. They know the game has zero staying power as they plan to produce it and want to make a killing off the movie and collectible kiddie market. All I see is FFG adopting the Wizkids Marketing Plan.
IF it isn't cancelled the game will go thru endless reprints as sets are retired. It's why I quit playing Wizkids games and why I will not start playing this one.
topkick, please donīt see any comment on excelsior as a flame on them.
itīs not.
their buisness was not the best, whatever reason (small staff, no funding,..)
their rules are still very good.
thats all i said, without any insult, i think
But that is not what you said. You said --
excelsior wasnīt good enough on the buisness-side (publication speed, support, money making) and presumely because this didnīt got the licence renewedYou do not know why they did not get the license renewed and saying someone wasn't good enough imparts a negative connotation. Guess we have to chalk this inadvertant snide remark up to your previously acknowledged problem with English as a second language?
As for my taking everything said against Excelsior as a flame that is an outright lie. I have even criticized them myself on occassion when I felt it warranted. The difference is I address specific problems when I do -- you just come in from left field and pop off with a generality that while it has elements of truth is said in a snide and demeaning way.
Some of the people here are old timers and some are relatively new. If you want to debate the whole history of Warzone/Chronopia I am up for it but stop sending out these snide little torpedos against Thom and the Excelsior crew.
A) You do not know any of the Excelsior crew to my knowledge, so you cannot speak to their intelligence, integrity, or business acumen with any degree of certainty and
B) Thom is providing us with this space to meet and discuss the game. While this does not mean that we have to be raging sycophants it should mean that we be respectful to them and their attempt to keep our games alive.
